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  • #16
    When I was a kid, if we had to take medicine during the school day, we had to leave it with either the nurse or the secretary and take it in their office. Of course, that was only in elementary school. I don't remember having to do that in junior high or high school.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Greenday View Post
      >.<

      Did you just use wikipedia for a source?

      And even if it's restricted, it's legal with a script. According to what you posted anyway.
      Yes, I did. I know a lot of people think it's unreliable because Everyone Can Edit It, but IMO that's exactly why it is reliable. I'm not going to go out of my way to find something that you think is more credible to cite when the [required!] sources are all linked at the bottom of the page and linked to with superscript in the text. But anyway, thread's not about that.

      It says it's Schedule III (illegal without script) but the sidebar at the top says it's both I and III. I suspect that it means Marinol, the prescription drug using dronabinol, is III, but the dronabinol itself is I, sort of like:

      Schedule II lists hydrocodone in pure form and any formulations of combination products containing more than 15 mg hydrocodone per dosage unit.
      Schedule III lists hydrocodone in formulations of combination products containing up to 15 mg hydrocodone per dosage unit.
      If anyone knows otherwise, please advise.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Boozy View Post
        So young people who attend public schools are no longer entitled to medical privacy.

        I think that's a very sad state of affairs.
        I agree with you and yes it's a violation of medical privacy. My daughters went through the same thing in school, they had to have the bottle/inhalor whatever in the school office and take their dose there. I think it's complete bullshit...and I would be inclined to do what patiokitty did and tell my kid to hide the meds in their backpack and take it in the bathroom or something. What they don't know won't hurt them.

        I don't think colleges have stuped to this level though...that's something.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by telecom_goddess View Post
          I don't think colleges have stuped to this level though...that's something.
          Oh, hell no. I've had students come to class stoned before, and frankly, I don't care. As long as you don't have illegal product in your dorm room and the tuition check clears, public* colleges don't give a damn.

          *Private, religious colleges are a different story

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          • #20
            It is absolutely a HIPPA violation. Schools are not necessary health-care providers, or responsible for one's health in any specific way, so it shouldn't be any of their business. If I, in the pharmacy, have to be careful what I say to one's spouse or parent, schools should have to butt out.

            I don't think we're talking about dronabinol, which is a capsule, and used for nausea and loss of appetite. I think they are talking about medical marijuana. You don't have to smoke it, after all. And if it helps the poor kids seizures, good. I'm all for medical marijuana, and in fact think it should be legalized across the board. (And taxed, just like alcohol and cigarettes.) I also think there should be a minimum age for recreational consumption. But I'm getting off track.

            Doctors should be able to use all the tools at their disposal to help make or keep people well. Banning one just because people use it to get high, well, there goes benzodiazepines, all pain medications, and a number of other drug classes.
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            • #21
              Schools act in loco parentis - does this have precedence over HIPAA? I don't know and I can't do the research right now.
              Last edited by Jack; 02-21-2011, 01:17 AM.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Boozy View Post
                So young people who attend public schools are no longer entitled to medical privacy.

                I think that's a very sad state of affairs.
                It is. They really have no respect for students rights.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by AdminAssistant View Post
                  When I was a kid, if we had to take medicine during the school day, we had to leave it with either the nurse or the secretary and take it in their office. Of course, that was only in elementary school. I don't remember having to do that in junior high or high school.
                  I have no problem with all medications being held at the office, even for high school students. That handles concerns about drug trafficking nicely.

                  My problem is with the school officials needing to know what the medications are and why they are prescribed. That information is between a patient and their doctor. It is not the business of principals, teachers, and school board trustees. As long as a student has a valid prescription, the school needs to mind their own damned business.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Boozy View Post
                    I have no problem with all medications being held at the office, even for high school students. That handles concerns about drug trafficking nicely.
                    Even inhalers?

                    Kids have died from not having access to their inhalers.

                    ^-.-^
                    Faith is about what you do. It's about aspiring to be better and nobler and kinder than you are. It's about making sacrifices for the good of others. - Dresden

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                    • #25
                      Obviously inhalers are an exception.

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                      • #26
                        I'm all for legalized marijuana, for many different reasons. But OT, if the kid has a prescription, if it's legal in the state that he's in, the school has no right to tell him he can't have his medication. Period.

                        Medical Marijuana is legal here (washington state) but it is not nearly as 'easy' to get as it is in, say, California. Most doctors refuse to prescribe it for fear of coming under recrimination from their hospital/clinic boards or associations. If it is prescribed you have to grow your own, and if some nosey neighbor or something reports you to the cops and the cops raid you, all the DA has to do is process you on a federal level for possession of marijuana and basically say 'frak all' to the state law.

                        I am not a pot head, have never even tried it, but everything I've learned it does wonders for people with my condition and sure as heck is far less impactful to one's system than the heavy narcotics and opiods patients like me are often prescribed.

                        To me, what they're doing to this kid is the equivalent of saying a special needs student can't have their service dog with them in class...which sadly happens quite a bit too.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Boozy View Post
                          Obviously inhalers are an exception.
                          No they are not....my oldest daughter had to keep an inhalor in the office too.
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Andara Bledin View Post
                            Even inhalers?

                            Kids have died from not having access to their inhalers.

                            ^-.-^
                            My school district requires this for OTC medications, as well. The kids aren't even allowed to have cough drops, now.
                            Do not lead, for I may not follow. Do not follow, for I may not lead. Just go over there somewhere.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Andara Bledin View Post
                              Even inhalers?

                              Kids have died from not having access to their inhalers.

                              ^-.-^
                              Yeah, but they won't be able to get money from other kids to let them have some from it.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Jack View Post
                                Schools act in loco parentis - does this have precedence over HIPPA? I don't know and I can't do the research right now.
                                I'm 99.9% sure HIPPA involves patient confidentiality. Not sure how making sure kids don't OD on drugs while at school violates that.
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