Yet another idiotic zero tolerance decision

[Jack]

Part of that is not disclosing what condition a patient has and what they're taking for it, yes? I don't work in medical and I don't know much about HIPPA but from what other people posted I got the idea that they think schools are violating HIPAA by forcing students to disclose the medication they're taking. I wondered whether their acting in loco parentis while the student is attending class changes this.

[Greenday]

HIPPA is doctor's giving away patient information. I don't see how making kids take their drugs at the nurse's office, supervised so they don't kill themselves, violates that.

[Jack]

Oh, okay then. Thanks.

[KnitShoni]

HIPAA applies to who has access to a person's medical records. Unless the nurse is telling random people what the child is taking and why, HIPAA doesn't apply.

[radiocerk]

If it's only the school nurse who has access to any of the children's medical information, then that wouldn't violate HIPPA. If that information is accessible to the principal, teachers, receptionists, or anyone who happens to come across the file, that is definitely a violation. A student should not have to defend his or her health conditions and treatment to an entire school board, that's screwed up.

[AccountingDrone]

Just a comment, as I am hitting the thread rather late.

If the parent wants the kid to be on medical weed, then it is between the parents and the doctor, not the school IMHO.

Since edibles are safer than smoking, and even vaporizing, you can take medical weed and turn it into tinctures and oil extracts that can be in turn turned into foods.

All the parents need to do is work out the dosing in tincture form, turn it into an edible that the kid would normally be allowed to have [chocolate chip cookie, piece of candy] and keep that in his pack for 'snack time' or sneak into the bathroom to eat. If there is no 'official' labeling on an edible, no way to tell it is medical.

And as you can tell, I have put lot of research into medical weed, as I want it desperately to be legalized so I can not get arrested for pain control.

[Aethian]

I'm 99.9% sure HIPPA involves patient confidentiality. Not sure how making sure kids don't OD on drugs while at school violates that.

If the kid is taking the recommended dose at the recommended time, how is he going to OD?

[Greenday]

If the kid is taking the recommended dose at the recommended time, how is he going to OD?

Somehow we know this is how it'd work? We can just assume kids are all smart enough to take their meds correctly or not abuse them? Because just coming out of high school and college where kids have abused the shit out of prescription pills more than any other drug, I just find that hard to believe. Some good kids may have to suffer, hell, I never abused any drugs but I still just went to the nurse to take it. Plus, it meant getting out of class.

[Andara Bledin]

Somehow we know this is how it'd work? We can just assume kids are all smart enough to take their meds correctly or not abuse them?

When you've been taking something for most of your life, you get pretty good at it. Just ask any Type I diabetic whose been that way from a very early age. They knew when to take their shots by the time they hit grade school, and often, they'd know how much to take as well, and that's a whole hell of a lot more complicated that scheduled pills.

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[Aethian]

Somehow we know this is how it'd work? We can just assume kids are all smart enough to take their meds correctly or not abuse them?

Those that needs meds to live and need it from a early age, DO take their meds properly.

[Greenday]

Those that needs meds to live and need it from a early age, DO take their meds properly.

No, they all don't. Not everyone takes their meds properly who needs to take them every day of there life. Shit happens and people forget.

If one set of kids have to be supervised while taking meds, everyone does. You can't make two separate sets of rules.

[Andara Bledin]

You can't make two separate sets of rules.

Yes you can. You can have as many sets of rules as there are different personalities.

One size does not fit all.

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[Greenday]

Yes you can. You can have as many sets of rules as there are different personalities.

That'd be discrimination.

[draco664]

That'd be discrimination.

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means...

Back to the point though, the idea around having 1 rule for everyone is the sort of thing that breeds the zero tolerance nonsense in the first place.

[AdminAssistant]

That may not be the right word, but in concept, Greenday is right. You can't let the kid with a chronic condition keep his meds on him, but make the kid with ADD go to the nurse. You just can't. And since letting a child walk around a school with unsecured adderol (sp?) is kinda stupid then, all the drugs have to be secured.

Besides, I think you guys are forgetting how manipulative and sneaky children can be. You really think kids don't share or sell their meds? Really?