Barking dogs face council death sentence

[fireheart17]

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/ipad/b...-1226021308492

OK, just to clarify, in Ausland, council districts are the rough version of counties in America. They're usually named after one of the larger suburbs in the area (i.e. City of Onkaparinga) or the town themselves (i.e. City of Mount Barker). They're usually responsible for taking care of libraries, environmental cleanup (this includes them driving the big fat garbage trucks ), various permits/registration requirements (for instance, if you wish to put another story on your house, you need council permission) and providing community activities.

One of the councils has previously come under ire for introducing cat controls (I think this restricted people to owning 2 cats per household unless they were registered breeders and also requiring them to be kept in after certain periods and also requiring them to be registered), but this one takes the cake.

The proposed legislation gives the councils enough power to seize and destroy nuisance barking dogs.

I can see this law being abused very quickly by certain EW's who want absolute peace and quiet. And what about incessant barking at dogs who are left in public places? The past two shifts I've done at work, I've had this dog going on and on and on for about 30 minutes straight....

[Greenday]

Some can take my dogs under penalty of death. The make great watch dogs. The only way some douchebag is taking my dogs from me because they bark is when they can pry them from my cold, dead fingers.

If my dogs are on my property and aren't harming anyone, no one has my permission to take them away and my permission is the only permission that will allow someone to take my dogs.

[Tanasi]

I don't agree with taking the dogs and killing them but I am in favor of fining the piss out of the owner(s).
Here barking dogs are part of the noise ordiance, if the dogs barks continusly for over 30 minutes the owners are fined $50 for each instance. Living next door to a dog that yaps all the time can be torturous and especially so if the owner is just ignoring the dog(s).
In my AO all domesicated pets by law must be under the owners control at all times. This applies to cats as well as snakes and lizards. This came about when a woman came home on two occasions to find a rather large constricting snake sunning itself on her front steps, it had escaped from the neighbor and she is a snake fraidy cat. Cats: folks got tired of cats walking all over their cars and leaving footy prints amoungst other things. A few years ago I asked the city attorney if this also applied to fish, she said that she'd get back to me, so far she hasn't and I've not been able to take my giant oscar out for a drag for fear of being fined.

[draco664]

Weird. As Tanasi said, why would you kill the dogs when you could perpetually fine the offenders? Either the dogs shut up or your coffers get full. Killing family pets is very bad PR.

[RecoveringKinkoid]

Last year, I had a come to Jesus meeting with my neighbors about the lab they kept kenneled up about twenty feet from my kitchen window.

Every day, starting at about four, he would start. Shortest run of barking was three hours. The longest? Twenty.

I wish I were kidding.

Sometimes on the weekend, we were treated to extra barking starting at about noon.

Then it started on a third shift starting at about seven am.

I could not eat supper. I could not watch tv. Nap on Saturday? Forget that. Could not talk to contractors standing in my driveway. Could not use my deck. Could not entertain dinner guests.

Had to tell them they had to come up with a solution. Fortunately, they moved the kennel, and stopped locking the dog up so much and it's not a problem anymore. While we still get along and I still like them, I know it damaged our relationship with them. The thing that irritates me the most is that I was forced to go over there and have a talk with them about it. They knew that shit was going on, they could hear it, too. Some people are oblivious about their animals.

No they shouldn't outright take the dogs and kill them, but they definitely should fine them. And if that doesn't work, then yes, they should take stronger measures. You cannot expect anyone to have to endure the level of noise we endured listening to that shit for that long. I kept hoping they'd take care of it on their own, but they didn't. It was mind blowing.

If the owner won't deal with it, then someone needs to deal with it. One of my other neighbors (who the wife ran and bitched about me to ) was saying "well they make good watchdogs." I'm like, how does something that barks that much make a good watchdog???? Somebody could be in there murdering her and I'd never know it because all that noise would be business as usual!

I was pretty happy when they moved the damn kennel twenty feet from HER kitchen window.

[Mr. Anubite]

I could not eat supper. I could not watch tv. Nap on Saturday? Forget that. Could not talk to contractors standing in my driveway. Could not use my deck. Could not entertain dinner guests.

It got to that point? Wow. And the neighbors did nothing at all? Presumably they also couldn't entertain or enjoy their home.

[guywithashovel]

When I was about fourteen years old, my family and I came home from an out of town trip one day to find two large rottweilers running around on our property. As I was getting out of the car, Dad started yelling at me "Get back in the car! There are big dogs out here!"

They were running around and barking and growling. Dad got one of his guns and tried to scare them off by firing warning shots. One of them ran away into the woods, but the other one kept trying to charge Dad. He ended up shooting and killing the animal.

We would later find out that those dogs belonged to a guy who lived a mile or so behind us. He was angry at first, but eventually I think he realized that he was in the wrong. Besides, dad talked to the police, and they informed him that he did nothing wrong. Rottweilers are (for the most part) aggressive, violent dogs, and if you insist on having them (as many people in the area I grew up in do, for some reason), then you need to keep them on your property. Sadly, many of the people in that area didn't think they had to keep their animals confined to their property. We often had dogs belonging to other people wandering onto our property and getting into our things.

[Andara Bledin]

Rottweilers are (for the most part) aggressive, violent dogs, and if you insist on having them (as many people in the area I grew up in do, for some reason), then you need to keep them on your property.

Rottweilers are big dogs, and often bought because they can be tough, so they get trained to be aggressive, violent dogs. I've known a handful of rotties in my life. The first trio were kept by a white trash family that lived across the street, and aside from killing cats, they were the most chickenshit dogs you ever came across. The other two were like night and day, the older being a great family dog, and the younger being brain damaged. The kennel these two had come from was falsifying documents, and both had hip dysplasia and should never have been sold, with the younger being so badly inbred that except for 2 or 3 people she lived with, she couldn't recognize anybody and would do aggressive barking until the person got close, and then she'd run and hide.

^-.-^

[RecoveringKinkoid]

It got to that point? Wow. And the neighbors did nothing at all? Presumably they also couldn't entertain or enjoy their home.

Yeah. And when I spoke to the wife, she admitted that her husband had just about reached the breaking point about it, too. So if it was driving HIM nuts, they had to know it was driving other people nuts as well.

So they moved the kennel that weekend.

Evidently, they're the wife's dogs.

I mean, why did it have to come to that?

I used to have a dog myself, and one with an extremely loud bark. I didn't let him bark all the time out of respect for those around me. I trained him to hush when told to and didn't leave him out in a tiny kennel all day where he would become neurotic (which is what happens to dogs when you kennel them all day) and bark out of frustration.

[blas87]

It's a little OT, but I can't fathom why some people absolutely have to have a dog, and they kennel it all damn day and whenever they aren't home, which seems to be more often than not.

Why get a dog if no one can ever be home for a long enough time to feed and care for it, or spend enough time with it to train it so that it can safely have roam of the house instead of a stupid kennel all day?

[RecoveringKinkoid]

Thank you! Geeze! I wish I had a nickle for everytime I have said or thought that very thing!

I'm less concerned with laws being put into place to curb irresponsible pet owners than I am with people outright abusing their dogs. And locking a freaking eighty pound lab in a ten by fifteen kennel all day every day is abuse. Why have the dog if that's what you're going to do? Find it a home where it can enjoy it's life!

My dog had the run of the house. He was trained and comfortable. He barked when someone came up in my yard, but otherwise, no. I didn't keep him kenneled. He stayed in the house unless I was home. Then he could run around on my FENCED property. In other words, I let him be a dog and didn't do stuff to make him neurotic.

[Hyena Dandy]

Rottweilers are (for the most part) aggressive, violent dogs, and if you insist on having them (as many people in the area I grew up in do, for some reason), then you need to keep them on your property.

Rottweilers are not aggressive, violent dogs. They are just fashionable to be owned by aggressive, violent people, or for aggressive, violent purposes.

They are, however, BIG. But I've never met a mean rottie where I live.

[linguist]

They are, however, BIG. But I've never met a mean rottie where I live.

I agree. I grew up with rotties (my uncle always had one), and they were without exception among the sweetest, most gentle dogs I've ever dealt with.

My brother, on the other hand, was attacked and almost killed when he was five by a cocker spaniel who was small enough to be kicked across the yard like a football (which is exactly what my dad did to get the dog off of him).

[lordlundar]

Interestingly enough, cocker spaniels are considered to be an aggressive dog. The lady that came to clip our spaniel's fur mentioned she had to muzzle every other spaniel she groomed except for ours. He always fell asleep halfway through!

[insertNameHere]

Rottweilers are not aggressive, violent dogs. They are just fashionable to be owned by aggressive, violent people, or for aggressive, violent purposes.

They are, however, BIG. But I've never met a mean rottie where I live.

It really depends on what morons you have enforcing laws. Where I'm from you need to have Pitbulls secured on a chain with a mussel, OR in a cage with a top on it..... That part becomes important when the neighbor was letting their dogs run around and we called the sheriff, the deputy WATCHED, as the pitpull went under the single wire electric fence and turned to my mom and went "see it is in a fenced in area, not shit I can do". Loved the look he gave to "Ok well next time it gets over here and charges I'm shooting it"


Now, if shit can't be done about vicious dogs chasing you around your own property of 5+ acres (this was before I was old enough to carry a gun everywhere and generally they put the dog away because I have no problems unloading one of many options). I would love to see them try and take your dog because it is annoying. I know plenty of people with annoying fucking dogs that are harmless, I support the fine them movement, even then I guess it depends how often and why they are barking. I can see plenty of violence towards those charged with enforcing the death sentence and plenty of backlash for those who made the law. As MANY people consider their pets to be like children and you don't kill someones child without getting a reaction