Wow...child support payments to fund Maccas?!

[Racket_Man]

I am in complete awe of how much money some women get for child support, and actually feel terrible for a lot of guys.

Not deadbeat morons like my ex coworker, who is the typical worthless sperm donor, but guys who have been screwed out of being a father by upsetting the mother so that she pulls her weight with the courts (since they almost always side with the mom no matter how worthless she may be), and they can absolutely drain a guy to the point of broke as a joke with weekly/monthly amounts.

and remember Blas in Wisconsin the "poor finanically drained and broke" father, by law, is NOT allowed to received food stamps, welfare, or get on Medicaid or Badgercare or receive any other kind of state or federal (not sure about that one) aid.

[telecom_goddess]

and remember Blas in Wisconsin the "poor finanically drained and broke" father, by law, is NOT allowed to received food stamps, welfare, or get on Medicaid or Badgercare or receive any other kind of state or federal (not sure about that one) aid.

Seriously? Wow....

[Racket_Man]

Seriously? Wow....

Yes seriously.

this is supposed to prevent the said baby-daddy from just quitting work and going on the state dole and leaving Momma financially "hanging". at least that is the theory. but in reality, as Blas stated, the high amount of "support " dollars awarded to Momma by the courts can and does put the Father in bad financial straits with little way out. even if the Father legitimately loses his job, the rule is NO welfare or Medicaid and I believe (not sure on this one) that his unemployment bennies are garnished as well.

what is really interestint (and I know several men who this happened to,) is that a one night stand can come back and bite you in the ass many years later. said one night stand has kid (yours) but NEVER seeks you out or claims the you are the Father UNTIL they get in a long stretch of bad luck financially several years later (and you know NOTHING at this point). then they go to court, get parternaty established and get BIG bucks support and you are screwed for the next 10-15 years of your life.

never happened to me but again I know of several guy this happened to.

[HYHYBT]

Ah, the advantages of being gay...

[MadMike]

but guys who have been screwed out of being a father by upsetting the mother so that she pulls her weight with the courts (since they almost always side with the mom no matter how worthless she may be), and they can absolutely drain a guy to the point of broke as a joke with weekly/monthly amounts.

And that's why I never did go to court with my ex. Everyone told me there was no way in hell she could ever win, since she couldn't even hold down a job, her own family would have sided with me, and she would later start developing a criminal record. Hell, one time she threatened me with that, and I looked her in the eye and told her, "If you think you have a chance in hell of winning, you go right ahead!" But deep down, I was afraid. What if I got some idiot judge who believed that, no matter what, the mother was the better parent? I'm just glad she didn't call my bluff.

While he's not quite 18 yet, I don't think it really matters now. He's less than a year away from 18, and he knows what she's all about, and wants nothing to do with her. And he's well past the age where the courts would take into consideration which parent the child wants to be with.

Still, it could have gone a lot worse for me.

[FArchivist]

what is really interestint (and I know several men who this happened to,) is that a one night stand can come back and bite you in the ass many years later. said one night stand has kid (yours) but NEVER seeks you out or claims the you are the Father UNTIL they get in a long stretch of bad luck financially several years later (and you know NOTHING at this point). then they go to court, get parternaty established and get BIG bucks support and you are screwed for the next 10-15 years of your life.

never happened to me but again I know of several guy this happened to.

Yeah, that's definitely their own damned fault. Especially if they didn't challenge paternity if they weren't sure of consanguinity.

[Greenday]

You don't even have to be the kid's biological father to get hit with child support. There have been cases where a "father" got a paternity test done, turned out not to be the father, and the judge said it didn't matter because it was good for the kid. It literally makes no sense.

Courts shouldn't be able to garnish wages to the point where they aren't enough to live on anymore. It's absurd.

[Racket_Man]

Courts shouldn't be able to garnish wages to the point where they aren't enough to live on anymore. It's absurd.

unfortuneately that is the law here in Wisconsin. gotta take care of that kid and Baby-Mama and God hlep you if you get unemployeed or sick

and in Illinois they have a MINIMUM percentage of a person's gross income (most of the time the man's) that is require to be paid in child support following a divorce. I think the numbers run something like this: 1 child 20 - 25% of gross income, 2 children 30% of gross income 3 children 35% of gross income, etc. I do not remember if the Father can not get welfare or food stamps (or whatever the heck it is called now). I am assuming this was done to clear some of the "hassel" of child support shnanagens percentages.

I know this is true becasue I started my divorce the first time in Illinois and it was on the information papers I got.

[blas87]

Oh God forbid a guy gets lazy and relies soley on teh government. Puhleeze. How many baby mammas absolutely refuse to get a job and live solely on child support and government benefits?