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  • Casey Anthony Jurors not allowed in local business.

    A parallel to the Casey Anthony thread.

    http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/state/c...er-?hpt=us_bn5

    I side with the jurors. The prosecution reached for something that they could not obtain. A Capital Murder charge.

    A lot of analysts and armchair lawyers have speculated that if they had gone for manslaughter of some degree or perhaps criminally negligent homicide they could have swayed the jury to a conviction.

    But the jury came up with the verdict that matched the evidence. It is not their fault and of people keep penalizing them when they make an unpopular decision, then who is going to be willing to serve on a jury?

    Here they wanted the "Evil Premeditating Psycho-Bitch must die" verdict when they could not get it and were not willing to back down to nail her for what the evidence supported.

    This is in a real way this is the opposite of Al Capone. With Capone they wanted the Organized Crime Grand Slam but were willing to settle for Felony Tax Evasion since they had the evidence to support it and could nail his ass to the wall with it.

    Once they brought up the "drowned kid/parental freak out" bit, my wife and I knew it was all over since that was reasonable doubt. There was not enough evidence on the little girl to say one way or the other what really happened.

    So when the jurors did what they were required by law to do, which is to look over the evidence and make the determination based thereupon, vilifying them is not what needs to be done. They did their job in accordance with the laws of the land. I am pissed at the verdict. I feel that she is an "Evil Premeditating psycho-bitch" but my feelings are not proof. No one's feelings are proof.

    Hell for all we know, this *is* what really happened and this was some elaborate ploy to make sure that she didn't hang for it. We'll never know.

    But in the end the real issue here is the damage to the Juror process. If my name comes up for a high profile case I may consider acting so gung-ho about finding a guilty verdict just so the defense attorney has my name tossed out of the pool so I don't have to find myself being told to "Fuck off" any time I need a tank of gas or a breakfast sandwich.

    "Yes your honor, I'd make a great juror since I can spot guilty people <snap fingers> just like that" - George Carlin

    And to add insult to injury, is that the sign doesn't state that "Casey Anthony Trial Jurors are not welcome" but that ALL Pinellas County Jurors are not welcome.

    Does this mean that the jury overseeing the trial of a rapist and turning in a "Guilty Verdict" is equally unwelcome? Or the jury that was dealing with an unrelated civil matter should be told to go and fuck themselves?

    Oh yeah, if it was hard to get a jury before, it's about to get worse if attitudes like this keep cropping up.
    “There are worlds out there where the sky is burning, where the sea's asleep and the rivers dream, people made of smoke and cities made of song. Somewhere there's danger, somewhere there's injustice and somewhere else the tea is getting cold. Come on, Ace, we've got work to do.” - Sylvester McCoy as the Seventh Doctor.

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    My mom was wondering how long it would take the jurors to be targeted for something... I also agree with the decision. They made their verdict based solely on the evidence and testimony available. I could never see a capital murder charge sticking.

    I wasn't that surprised to hear it was in Clearwater. Voicing his opinion is fine, but soon he might not have any business.
    "Any state, any entity, any ideology which fails to recognize the worth, the dignity, the rights of Man...that state is obsolete."

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    • #3
      And it just got worse...

      http://www.people.com/people/article...fullcontentcnn

      This juror just fled her home for the death threats.
      “There are worlds out there where the sky is burning, where the sea's asleep and the rivers dream, people made of smoke and cities made of song. Somewhere there's danger, somewhere there's injustice and somewhere else the tea is getting cold. Come on, Ace, we've got work to do.” - Sylvester McCoy as the Seventh Doctor.

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      • #4
        Correct me if I'm wrong, but jurors in really high profile cases (sometimes even just high profile local type cases) are supposed to be kept private and practically anonymous.

        I heard on the radio that these jurors CHOSE to come out and say how they felt. They endangered their own safety by doing so.

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        • #5
          If these people are so flippin' angry, they should go after THE ACCUSED with torches and pitchforks...not the jurors.

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          • #6
            I wish I was a superhero for stuff like that. fly into that town, rip a few nutsacks open, and just be like "SMARTEN UP!"

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            • #7
              Originally posted by blas87 View Post
              I heard on the radio that these jurors CHOSE to come out and say how they felt. They endangered their own safety by doing so.
              I don't give a flying fuck who outed them.

              There is no call for harassing people doing an unpopular job. And I hope those who sent death threats all get jail time for being fucking assholes.

              ^-.-^
              Faith is about what you do. It's about aspiring to be better and nobler and kinder than you are. It's about making sacrifices for the good of others. - Dresden

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              • #8
                Damn them for doing it right and getting to the correct verdict. Burn them!
                Violence has resolved more conflicts than anything else. The contrary opinion that violence doesn't solve anything is merely wishful thinking at its worst. - Starship Troopers

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                • #9
                  but the mob does not agree with the correct verdict. The mob wants to convince the jury and all future juries to make the correct verdict (at least in thier eyes). I will admit, I did not pay much attention to this case because to me it was another murder case in a country full of them. What made this one so special? But from what I did read after the verdict, it sounds like the case was built on circumstance and no real hard evidence. I'm sorry but with murder you have to have to show how the killer did it and you have to show the motive because murder is intent. Like Mark McGwire so many times, they went for the home run and struck out.

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                  • #10
                    Jurors should have better protection in this country, dammit. And people should stop being such assholes to people who hold someone's life in their hands when all they know is what the ignorant talking heads on CNN et al have told them. Nancy Grace says she did it, burn the jurors!

                    What a circus. At least with the OJ circus, there were actual institutional issues. Here? It is a pretty run of the mill case, sadly.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Giggle Goose View Post
                      If these people are so flippin' angry, they should go after THE ACCUSED with torches and pitchforks...not the jurors.
                      I'm sorry you want people to think logically?

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                      • #12
                        My take on this is a bit more controversial...

                        1) If the jury (which is kept private) makes the personal choice to go public... they need to understand and accept the consequences of that choice. Once they go public they no longer fall under the protection of the court ... and citizens are NOT obliged to agree with them or want to associate with them.


                        2) Stores maintain the right to refuse service unless it violates a protected class.
                        And, as stated above, by choosing to go public they stepped out from under the protection of the courts.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by PepperElf View Post
                          My take on this is a bit more controversial...

                          1) If the jury (which is kept private) makes the personal choice to go public... they need to understand and accept the consequences of that choice. Once they go public they no longer fall under the protection of the court ... and citizens are NOT obliged to agree with them or want to associate with them.


                          2) Stores maintain the right to refuse service unless it violates a protected class.
                          And, as stated above, by choosing to go public they stepped out from under the protection of the courts.
                          Almost all could be recognized from the hours upon hours of time their faces were on the news during the trials, though. I really do feel sorry for that jury, being punished for doing the right thing sucks
                          Happiness is too rare in this world to actually lose it because someone wishes it upon you. -Flyndaran

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                          • #14
                            That's because many people feel "the right thing" was a conviction.

                            and that the lack of evidence was because she had what, 2 months to sanitize it before the investigators found it.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by PepperElf View Post
                              That's because many people feel "the right thing" was a conviction.
                              And they feel this way because the media went 100% guilty witch hunt from day one on this. There was never a shred of doubt according to most the media.

                              Nancy Grace is still frothing at the mouth.

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