School Negligence Via Texting?

[Andara Bledin]

When the "sins of a few" can disrupt the learning experience for entire classrooms, then blanket rules it is.

I almost never needed much assistance from my teachers, but I still got pissed off at the jokers and troublemakers in my classes. I can't imagine how much it screwed things up for the kids who actually needed help.

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[AdminAssistant]

Not to mention posing a real safety risk. Say there is an emergency situation at the school, like a fire. Teachers and staff have to quickly get all students outside to a safe location are required to know where all their students are at all times. But one kid has his phone, so he calls/texts Mumsy. And now, in addition to making sure all students are safe and accounted for, the teachers and staff have to deal with irrational parents who are convinced that their precious snowflakes are in extreme danger. Or a parent sneaks their kid away without letting teachers/staff know. Now the teacher, fire department, and police are going to spend unnecessary amounts of time looking for what they believe to be a missing kid.

There isn't any reason for a kid in a K-12 school to have a cell phone on them. If there's an emergency at home, the office can be notified and they'll pull the kid out of class. If there's an emergency at the school, there is a legion of trained adults capable of managing the situation and notifying parents when it's necessary and safe to do so.

In a college situation, I can set basically any rules I darn please and if you don't like it, then you don't have to take my class. One of my rules is have respect for each other aka Don't Be a Dick. When you pull out your cell to answer a text about the rawkin' frat party last night in my class, then you are disrespecting your fellow classmates and me. So I will tell you to put it away and I will publicly call you out on it and I will take away participation points until the concept of "Put phone away for 50 minutes" sinks into your thick little privileged college student skull.

[Gravekeeper]

I never liked the idea of blanket rules for the sins of a few.

Yes, well, its much easier to have that blanket rule than to try and enforce each incident individually. The blanket rule tells people upfront that they can't do it, and gives you a written rule to enforce when you catch them doing it. Instead of having to work from a more general interpretation of another rule, which the few in question will undoubtable debate or feign ignorance of.

More often than not, a blanket rule exists not because of a power trip, but because the people that inspired the rule to begin with are entitled dicks. -.-

[Rapscallion]

More often than not, a blanket rule exists not because of a power trip, but because the people that inspired the rule to begin with are entitled dicks. -.-

That ... sums up quite eloquently the origins of the CS.com rules...

Rapscallion

[Peppergirl]

Also, in my office, you do need to alert the supervisor and ask permission if you have to run to the washroom or what have you, because we deal with a constant traffic situation. If two or more people wander off at the same time, we're suddenly in deep shit.

That would sort of suck. I'm glad my call center is much more relaxed. I do understand the need for it, though.

As for 'blanket' rules; I've never been a fan - but I can understand why they're around. Since the beginning of time, there's always been the concept of a few assholes who have to ruin things for everyone else by breaking the rules, thereby causing those annoying blanket rules be set forth.

[Gravekeeper]

That would sort of suck. I'm glad my call center is much more relaxed. I do understand the need for it, though.

Depends on the time of day, specific events or campaigns, etc. During our peak periods, one or two operators off, especially on a key team, can cause a heck of a traffic jam. Like there are call types in the morning that only I can answer. Even if there is 2 or 3 other ops with me, they're not trained to handle x call type. That sort of thing.

[Ree]

I personally thought teachers who read notes out loud to the entire class were douchebags who deserved no respect since they clearly have no respect for the students.

It's the students who were showing a lack of respect by passing the notes in the first place.

Exactly!!!
Nobody seems to look at that side of things, though.
It's all about "my personal freedom".

[blas87]

Yes.

People are so damn militant about their personal freedoms and "my property" that they think they can do whatever they want, and fuck the rules. When you're at school, or at work, you have to watch your mouth and you have to obey rules. You aren't special and you aren't above the rules.