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  • #61
    Originally posted by Rapscallion View Post
    How do you leash a snake?

    I'm interested.

    Rapscallion
    Duh, Around the shoulders!!!

    To tell the truth I don't know, but it is a city and county ordiance that specifically mentions snakes. Stupid yes but there you go.
    Several years ago a fellows extremely large snake kept getting out and sunning itself on the neighbors steps. The neighbor was freaked out and politically connected.
    I'm just glad the leash law doesn't apply to livestock, now kids on the other hand.....
    Cry Havoc and let slip the marsupials of war!!!

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    • #62
      I won't put up with it and I won't warn the owners
      In this case I don't think a warning is necessary. Livestock are property, and dogs chasing/injuring/possibly killing them deprives you of income, it's the same as stealing.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by anakhouri View Post
        Livestock are property, and dogs chasing/injuring/possibly killing them deprives you of income, it's the same as stealing.
        Actually, vandalism, but still a crime of some sort.

        ^-.-^
        Faith is about what you do. It's about aspiring to be better and nobler and kinder than you are. It's about making sacrifices for the good of others. - Dresden

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        • #64
          Originally posted by PepperElf View Post
          Maybe it's me but... the only way I know to prevent a cat from roaming is to make it an indoor-only cat.
          It's not just you, but the RSPCA (Australian 'Royal' SPCA) and the Australian Department of Primary Industries and many local councils are distributing a pamphlet about how to fence in cats.

          This allows the cat the freedom of your property (or your cat cage, whichever you choose); yet protects your neighbours from a roaming cat.

          You can also use this knowledge to fence OUT cats. It's recommended, in fact, if you have a feral population in your area and are doing something like native animal rehab.

          One company is making fencetop devices that simultaneously shut cats in and out.

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          • #65
            Thus making your backyard look like a prison yard.

            I think it's a good idea for people who want their cats to use the backyard without worries that they'll escape, but I'll be damned if I'm going to do it to keep someone else's cat OUT.

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            • #66
              Do they make invisible fence collars for cats? I've never seen one...
              "My in-laws are country people and at night you can hear their distinctive howl."

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              • #67
                Originally posted by HYHYBT View Post
                Do they make invisible fence collars for cats? I've never seen one...
                Probably the same as the ones for dogs. They are just mainly marketed towards dogs because of the relaxed attitude towards cats roaming wherever.
                Violence has resolved more conflicts than anything else. The contrary opinion that violence doesn't solve anything is merely wishful thinking at its worst. - Starship Troopers

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                • #68
                  Dog collars are too large for cats, though, and probably give too much of a shock as well.
                  "My in-laws are country people and at night you can hear their distinctive howl."

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                  • #69
                    It really doesn't matter whose property the cats were on if the charge is animal abuse/cruelty. Cities are taking cruelty much more seriously than they used to with many types now being counted as felony level. Now that it's actually been proven that there is a link between cruelty to animals and cruelty toward humans more is being done to put a stop to it. The cruelty charge is likely to stick because this asshat went out of her way to do real harm to the cats -- thereby breaking the law.

                    Cruelty charges don't depend on anything other than the intent to gravely harm an animal causing suffering and or death. It doesn't matter what the animal was doing or not doing. The human is the one held responsible for their actions. If a dog is attacking you it is permissible to kill the dog. It is not legal to torture the dog to death. Someone might get off by claiming self defense, but they would likely be charged and end up in court for their actions.

                    In this case, the woman had other recourse -- talk to the owner of the cats, call the authorities, put down stuff that repels cats, etc. What she chose to do was to try to kill the cats and that is illegal. What she did was a premeditated act of intentional cruelty. Hopefully she will take a hard hit in her wallet, maybe do some time behind bars...and find a new place to live...where she will avoid harming anything for a very long time.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Seshat View Post
                      Cats can be fenced in, or caged in.

                      A government pamphlet on cat enclosures and fences.
                      We did something similar with our house in Phoenix; we screened in the back patio so the cats could enjoy the outdoors without escaping. They really liked it, too. When we finally get a house here, I'd like to do the same thing.

                      It does cost a bit of money, but the peace of mind and peace with the neighbors is worth it.
                      People behave as if they were actors in their own reality show. -- Panacea
                      If you're gonna be one of the people who say it's time to make America great again, stop being one of the reasons America isn't great right now. --Jester

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Greenday View Post
                        The car is not shared.
                        And

                        Originally posted by Greenday View Post
                        Some of us were pointing out that the cat owner letting her cats go wherever is complete disrespect for other people's property. The car is other people's property.
                        Irrelevant. If the driveway is shared property, the cats have a right to walk there, as they have a right to walk on any property belonging to the cat owner. If the neighbor happens to put her car on the shared property, she essentially cedes her right to request that the cats be kept off, as there is no equity in her proposal.

                        The first thing the judge is going to do is ask "If you didn't want the cats to walk on your car, why did you park it on the shared property?" The second thing the judge will ask is "Why did you not seek to come to an accommodation with the pet owner?"

                        It's all pretty simple. According to basic property law in the USA, the poisoning neighbor doesn't have a leg to stand on.

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                        • #72
                          It also doesn't matter whether cats *ought* to be allowed to roam free or not. That's a separate issue. Current standards in most places do in fact allow them to do so, at least unless they're causing trouble, and therefore it's not reasonable to expect someone to keep theirs shut up in advance.
                          "My in-laws are country people and at night you can hear their distinctive howl."

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