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  • #16
    Originally posted by Greenday View Post
    Sounds like my area of New Jersey.
    You speak guido? HAHA!

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Gravekeeper View Post

      If you can't speak Spanish, you can't communicate with 1/5th of the State. If you can't speak English, you can't communicate with 4/5th's of the state
      Your math would indicate that, in a state where large numbers speak each language, virtually nobody speaks both.
      "My in-laws are country people and at night you can hear their distinctive howl."

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      • #18
        According to the article, the lady in question couldn't answer a question about which school she graduated from. The judge noted that it wasn't because of her intelligence, but because of her lack of proficiency in English.

        Now, bills are written in English. Debates in government are in English. Laws are written in English (or at least, that sub-dialect legalese). I would suggest that not speaking the language the laws are written in should disqualify you from sitting and voting on them. You should at least have an understanding of what you are agreeing on, yes?

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Ninja_Sushi View Post
          You speak guido? HAHA!
          Yes, rather well too. Even better than my Spanish, but I haven't had need to speak Spanish in a long time.
          Violence has resolved more conflicts than anything else. The contrary opinion that violence doesn't solve anything is merely wishful thinking at its worst. - Starship Troopers

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          • #20
            Originally posted by HYHYBT View Post
            Your math would indicate that, in a state where large numbers speak each language, virtually nobody speaks both.
            I'm sure some do, I'm just giving a general idea of what the problem would be. But if you want to get that specific about it, very well. Though doing so actually reinforces my point as the % of Spanish speakers that are unable to speak proficient English should be around 10% ish of Arizona. Making them too small of a minority to cater too. I'm sure there's a good portion of overlap between that 10% and the 8% of illegal immigrants as well. Which would make the % of legal citizens that only speak Spanish actually rather small, and the State should not be required to cater to them.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Gravekeeper View Post
              I'm sure some do, I'm just giving a general idea of what the problem would be. But if you want to get that specific about it, very well. Though doing so actually reinforces my point as the % of Spanish speakers that are unable to speak proficient English should be around 10% ish of Arizona. Making them too small of a minority to cater too. I'm sure there's a good portion of overlap between that 10% and the 8% of illegal immigrants as well. Which would make the % of legal citizens that only speak Spanish actually rather small, and the State should not be required to cater to them.
              Correct. And A LOT of people from Mexican families are bi-lingual. Like I said, living here taught me a lot. Very very few are Spanish only.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by HYHYBT View Post
                Many things make certain people a poor choice for office. They often wind up elected anyway
                Yes, but unfortunately you can't legislate against stupid.
                I am a sexy shoeless god of war!
                Minus the sexy and I'm wearing shoes.

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