Father Teaches Daughter Lesson About Facebook

[tabbyblack13]

This 15 year old girl vented on Facebook, which is a public forum. There are ways to get past these blocks. Just because it is set to certain privacy level doesn't mean that it stays at that level. Complaining about her chore level, school work, and life in general. Well I have only one thing to say to her, suck it up!

That clinic that she works at is paying for her lifestyle. I doubt she is cleaning as much as she complains about. School work is something she has to do. I know it isn't the most wonderful thing to do but, it still has to be done. The chores that she has is a part of being a family. Clearing the table, doing dishes, cleaning house? A person has to do that no matter what. I've worked 16 hour days and I still have to do daily chores. It's a part of life. Think about people who live on farms and the about of chores they have to do.

What about her bedtime? Going to bed at 10 pm is what I do and I wake up at 5:00 am to go to work. I also don't get to sleep in on my weekends either because I have to travel 1.5 hours to the closest Wal-Mart. I have not been able to sleep in for a long time because of life. Her issue with sleeping is because her younger brother wakes her up. Which means her brother needs to be told to leave her alone, if he hasn't already.

Now her father did overact but she was punished earlier for this and she did not listen the first time. So now, he does something that she will listen to. The laptop was his and he can do as he pleases with it. I remember there was a guy a few years a go that nailed an X-Box to a tree. Why? His sons kept fighting over it and wouldn't stop. He threatened to do and he did. I doubt his kids will try that again. I think getting kids to understand what a reasonable parent puts down as a rule will be followed or a punishment will quickly follow.

[smileyeagle1021]

Again he didn't find it by going online. He found it by going through her computer.

umm... no he didn't.
he found it by logging into the facebook account they had set up for posting pictures of their dog and seeing it show up on that account's news feed because she hadn't blocked that account.
The work he did on the computer and finding that facebook post weren't related.
So, yes, this is exactly like posting something to facebook and your boss stumbling upon it.

[Gravekeeper]

This 15 year old girl vented on Facebook, which is a public forum. There are ways to get past these blocks. Just because it is set to certain privacy level doesn't mean that it stays at that level. Complaining about her chore level, school work, and life in general. Well I have only one thing to say to her, suck it up!

Her intention was to keep the post private. Just because she failed at that does not negate her attempt at privacy. Also, enough of this "suck it up" and "in my day" type bullshit. Like anyone on this entire website has never wanted to vent about their life, job or work? Bull. We all need to vent when we're stressed and just because she's 15 doesn't mean she has any less of a right to do that than you do.

It doesn't matter what your life is like, it has absolutely no bearing or relevence on what her life is like. Because you are not her, and she is not you. You can't expect someone else to handle life and stress the same way you do. Nevermind a teenage girl.

Your life has absolutely no bearing on her or hers because you are a different person then she is.

So, yes, this is exactly like posting something to facebook and your boss stumbling upon it.

No its not for the simple fact you and your boss are adults. This is a 15 year old girl. Of course she's going to say stupid shit. Which is the entire problem with this. Dad didn't handle this like an adult, he lowered himself to being a 15 year old too.

[jackfaire]

umm... no he didn't.
he found it by logging into the facebook account they had set up for posting pictures of their dog and seeing it show up on that account's news feed because she hadn't blocked that account.
The work he did on the computer and finding that facebook post weren't related.
So, yes, this is exactly like posting something to facebook and your boss stumbling upon it.

Except that wasn't what he said in the video. He said he found it accidentally while working on her computer.

And no because her dad isn't her boss. Seriously why does how she feels affect him in the slightest?

This isn't, "You said something that hurt my reputation, income, or any other aspect of my life" this is you vented about something bothering you.

So from now on Smiley every time you complain about Utah you should go to jail I mean after all if we are going to punish people for venting about things that to their perspective sucks but other people think are reasonable then shouldn't we apply the same standard to adults?


EDIT:

Oh and by the way I do think it's unfair if someone gets fired for venting about their job and their boss finds out about it.

I have no doubt if this girl was working at the local Taco Bell she complained and her boss found out about he would fire her but really punishing her for complaining about her personal life? This isn't 1984 or at least I hope it isn't.

[smileyeagle1021]

No its not for the simple fact you and your boss are adults. This is a 15 year old girl. Of course she's going to say stupid shit. Which is the entire problem with this. Dad didn't handle this like an adult, he lowered himself to being a 15 year old too.

To be blunt, no he didn't handle it like an adult.
But, this girl is damn lucky to be 15 in 2012 where her father is catching hell for destroying property. Had she been 15 when my mother was growing up, no one would bat an eye if she was publicly spouting off on her parents and her parents decided to belt her.
Oh, and at 15, at least in Nevada and Utah (I don't know about labor laws everywhere else) she is old enough for a work permit, which means she should be old enough to know what is and isn't appropriate actions when interacting with adults.

[Gravekeeper]

To be blunt, no he didn't.

Yes he did.

Lets see, he found something that was never intended for him to read and instead of talking to her privately and keeping his parenting within the realm of his family's private life. He instead embarrassed her in front of the entire world ( nevermind what he's invited by posting his 15 year old daughter's full name and location online ) as payback for embarrassing him to her friends. Whose opinions he apparently cares about for some reason. Then he shoots her laptop. Because thats what grown ups do. Shoot stuff to make a point.

He needs to grow up too.

Oh, and at 15, at least in Nevada and Utah (I don't know about labor laws everywhere else) she is old enough for a work permit, which means she should be old enough to know what is and isn't appropriate actions when interacting with adults.

First of all, state law doesn't automatically grant maturity and has no bearing on this at all. Second of all, guess whose job that would have been to teach her that? Again, her attitude is a reflection of how she was raised, which is clearly on display in this video. Like I said, dad is just as immature as daughter and daughter's attitude is a result of dad.

[jackfaire]

This girl is damn lucky to be 15 in 2012 where her father is catching hell for destroying property. Had she been 15 when my mother was growing up, no one would bat an eye if she was publicly spouting off on her parents and her parents decided to belt her.

My parents used to gripe like this in the "Lucky not to get belted" times and their parents would have smacked the shit ouf of anyone trying to control how my parents felt.

And in what world is her father catching hell? Most people like the majority are applauding him as a hero. Which scares me. Quite honestly it does.

I mean he overreacted to an imagined insult. She complained about her life in one of the politest ways I have ever heard. My rants about my parents had more fire than that. The one thing that she said as negative about them was them making her fetch their coffee which my parents did too and I gotta say if you have your kid fetching you things not because the kid happens to be going to the same place but because you sent them that is lazy.

[Andara Bledin]

I keep seeing comments about how her being young means that she's guaranteed to say stupid shit, and really, that's about as asinine as any other gross generalization.

I remember being 15 quite well, and I'm still female, and I absolutely never talked shit about my parents. They both worked full time jobs and spent a hell of a lot more time doing what they were responsible for than I ever did.

Anyway, another article for the curious. This one is at the Daily Mail and includes a transcript of the post and link to the video as well as a lot more responses from the father.

What is it with parents posting their punishments online?

He notes that he posted the response on YouTube because Facebook's upload sucks (which it does) and that the message was aimed at all of the people that she had sent the original diatribe to, and the rest that she specifically excluded from said diatribe so they would understand what had happened.

I'm wondering if the pet story is true or not. If it is, then I suppose seeing a giant wall of text would make the father curious enough to read it. If the dog story isn't true, I can also see a parent getting suspicious of their teenage daughter blocking them from facebook, and wanting answers.

I have no reason to believe the dog story isn't true. Supposedly, the original post from her blocked the groups "family" and "church" from seeing it, but included everybody else. Which is a fairly common bonehead maneuver from Facebook posters.

The dog's account was never added to the "family" group, and thus didn't get excluded, so he could see the update in all it's glory.

Note to all would-be Facebook ranters: Don't exclude people you don't want to see something, because you will always forget or miss someone.

Honestly, I can totally understand why he did what he did with the laptop. There is nothing quite so viscerally affecting as seeing something you've come to rely on having being destroyed. The father remarked that she is currently on her fourth cell phone because the expense means nothing to her as every penny she's ever had was given to her. He applauds her ability to save up for the things she wants, but thinks it's time she learned the value of the money she's saving.

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[Gravekeeper]

I keep seeing comments about how her being young means that she's guaranteed to say stupid shit, and really, that's about as asinine as any other gross generalization.

No one said she's guranteed to say stupid shit. Only that she's 15, so its not surprising that she might speak before she thinks. As a parent, you need to understand that your children are not adults yet and take the shit they say with a grain of salt. Especially teenagers.

I remember being 15 quite well, and I'm still female, and I absolutely never talked shit about my parents. They both worked full time jobs and spent a hell of a lot more time doing what they were responsible for than I ever did.

So what? I remember being 15 too and while I never talked shit about my mom, I certainly did say stupid shit on other topics. Because I wasn't old enough to master thinking before I spoke just yet.

He notes that he posted the response on YouTube because Facebook's upload sucks (which it does) and that the message was aimed at all of the people that she had sent the original diatribe to, and the rest that she specifically excluded from said diatribe so they would understand what had happened.

This guy allegedly "Works in IT" but has no problem tossing his teenage daughter out for the world to see online? This is my problem here and why I say this guy is just as immature as she is. This is a grown, adult man. Yet he felt the need to go before the entire world and defend himself from something mean his 15 year old daughter said about him on Facebook. Then demonstrate his manly control over her by shooting up her labtop in front of the world.

Grow up dude.

[Andara Bledin]

No one said she's guranteed to say stupid shit.

Except that that is what you said.

This is a 15 year old girl. Of course she's going to say stupid shit.

This guy allegedly "Works in IT" but has no problem tossing his teenage daughter out for the world to see online?

He answered her in exactly the same forum that she aired her grievances.

His posting went out to his contact list, not the entire world. Yes, the entire world ended up having access to the YouTube video, but he did not seek out views.

As for the shooting of the laptop, I honestly think that most of the issue with that is about people discomfort with firearms and not that he chose to destroy the computer.

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[Gravekeeper]

Except that that is what you said.

My apologies for the inadervant generalization then. Not my intent seeing as I didn't even recall making it. -.-

He answered her in exactly the same forum that she aired her grievances.

That's kind of the problem. Responding to something stupid your 15 year old did in the same stupid manner.

His posting went out to his contact list, not the entire world. Yes, the entire world ended up having access to the YouTube video, but he did not seek out views.

As someone who "Works in IT" he should know everyone would have access too it. But that aside, numbnuts names himself in the related news articles anyway and names his daughter in the video. If he works in IT, he should have a vague idea of how the Interwebs work and how stupid it is to throw things like this on it.

As for the shooting of the laptop, I honestly think that most of the issue with that is about people discomfort with firearms and not that he chose to destroy the computer.

That's certainly a part of it. If he'd just tossed it in a lake or something it'd probably go over a bit better. But shooting it is a very "Rawr, I r the manly boss of house. Obey meh~".

[Andara Bledin]

But that aside, numbnuts names himself in the related news articles anyway and names his daughter in the video.

Anyone who knew her already was a party to her dirty laundry. I'm not sure what more his allowing himself to be named really does.

That's certainly a part of it. If he'd just tossed it in a lake or something it'd probably go over a bit better. But shooting it is a very "Rawr, I r the manly boss of house. Obey meh~".

No, it's not. It's very, "this item is going to be rendered quite visibly non-functional and non-recoverable." The idea of shooting being a "manly" action is rather subtly sexist, and as a woman who likes to shoot, a bit irritating over time.

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[Gravekeeper]

Anyone who knew her already was a party to her dirty laundry. I'm not sure what more his allowing himself to be named really does.

I'm referring to how stupid it is to out your teenage daughter's name and location on the Internet. The Internet does terrible things to people it takes an interest in. Especially when stupidity like this is involved.

The idea of shooting being a "manly" action is rather subtly sexist, and as a woman who likes to shoot, a bit irritating over time.

Ugh, don't try and inject sexism into this. There are men with guns who think shooting things is a manly thing to do. Saying that is not sexism. Saying "Women can't shoot guns as well as men because that's a man thing" is sexism. Making an observation that there are men that think something is manly is not sexism.

[Boozy]

I just don't understand why he would destroy the laptop. Ground her from it. Confiscate it. Wipe it and sell it. But to destroy a $500 piece of machinery to make a point is so blatantly stupid that I can't even comprehend it.

It's fairly obvious that we aren't dealing with a rocket scientist here.

His thought process was likely along the lines of "Bad feeling! Laptop bad! Laptop smash!"

That's kind of the problem. Responding to something stupid your 15 year old did in the same stupid manner.

That's my problem with this guy in a nutshell.

"She totally started it." Seriously? I expect that sort of nonsense from teenagers, but grown adults - especially parents - need to be held to a higher standard.

[Lace Neil Singer]

Don't forget that he mentions that this isn't the first time she's done this; the last time, she was grounded for three months. Which was when he said, "Do that again, and you get a bullet in your laptop". So, she did it again, he follows thru on the punishment. Everyone complains about parents not following thru on punishments, then when a parent actually does, they complain as well.

The shooting is probably just cuz of where he happens to live. In England or another place where guns aren't as popularly distributed, a father might use a hammer to smash the laptop.