Father Teaches Daughter Lesson About Facebook

[KnitShoni]

If seeing a rant his daughter posted because she was frustrated is the worst day this guy has had as a father, he should consider himself blessed. There's a lot of fathers out there who would take his troubles any day of the week.

At the same time, if all she has to do is empty the dishwasher, wipe down the counters, make her own bed and do her own laundry, she should have considered herself blessed.

[Greenday]

That excuse is used, by quite a few people, to oppose any form of discipline at all.

This. It comes up EVERY single time there is a thread about punishing kids.

[Amanita]

It sounds like this girl had more chores on her plate than what Knitshoni mentions though- I think I remember something about being expected to put in hours at her parents clinic in addition to her regular chores, homework, and so on. So her complaints about being overloaded might well have had merit, even if she should have framed them a little more diplomatically.

[Gravekeeper]

That excuse is used, by quite a few people, to oppose any form of discipline at all.

Cept that's not what I said at all. But thanks I guess? I've also never seen anyone say that in opposition to all forms of discipline.

Dad here punished his daughter in an unreasonable fashion for holding a private opinion. What sort of lesson does that teach? Everyone I've known in my life that's had overbearing disciplinary parents dealt with them simply by hiding what they were up to better. Once a child learns that you're unreasonable they're no longer learning lessons from you.

They're learning how to avoid setting you off.

[Hyena Dandy]

If she DOES the chores, I think there really shouldn't be a problem. If she was refusing to do the chores, or lying about it... This I think would still be harsh, but I'd understand it.

It doesn't feel like an overdramatic thing, it's not like someone's going to accuse her parents of being abusive... We all need to blow of steam sometimes.

I know if I got in trouble for complaining AFTER I do the work, I'd feel pretty hurt myself. I do what I'm told, and I reserve the right to not like doing it.

[KnitShoni]

Cept that's not what I said at all. But thanks I guess? I've also never seen anyone say that in opposition to all forms of discipline.

Dad here punished his daughter in an unreasonable fashion for holding a private opinion. What sort of lesson does that teach? Everyone I've known in my life that's had overbearing disciplinary parents dealt with them simply by hiding what they were up to better. Once a child learns that you're unreasonable they're no longer learning lessons from you.

They're learning how to avoid setting you off.

I didn't say that's what you said. I said it's used by a lot of people to oppose any form of discipline. So...you're welcome?

Outside of his gun usage and the fact that he recorded it, what part of the punishment was unreasonable for being disrespectful? Because he didn't punish her for her opinion. He punished her for a repeated instance of disrespect. Not just of him, but her mother, her stepmother, and the "cleaning lady." Was it just certain aspects, or the fact that he punished her at all?

[MadMike]

Outside of his gun usage and the fact that he recorded it, what part of the punishment was unreasonable for being disrespectful?

I can't speak for everyone else, but for me, it was pretty much just that. Shooting the laptop was overkill, and posting it for all to see was childish. I'm kind of torn on whether she should have been punished for simply venting, but if it had to be done, it would have made more sense to just ground her from using the laptop.

[Greenday]

Dad here punished his daughter in an unreasonable fashion for holding a private opinion.

There was nothing private about it. Facebook is public.

[Andara Bledin]

I'm kind of torn on whether she should have been punished for simply venting, but if it had to be done, it would have made more sense to just ground her from using the laptop.

Last time it happened, he did ground her. From his comments, she was ungrounded for a grand total of three months before doing exactly what he told her not to and attempting to hide that she did it.

There was nothing private about it. Facebook is public.

Facebook can be public.

If you pay attention, it can also be private (in as much as anything on the Internet is).

^-.-^

[Greenday]

Facebook can be public.

If you pay attention, it can also be private (in as much as anything on the Internet is).

^-.-^

Facebook is always public. Saying it can be private is like saying standing behind a tree in a city makes you hidden: not really.

[DrFaroohk]

Doesn't matter how well guarded it was. You don't say it's ok to break into someone's house because they left the door unlocked. What if it was her journal left carelessly on he desk, is that ok?

Reminds me of when the mrs. was reading my fratching posts. Sure, anyone can come here to fratching, I don't own fratching, but the fact is it was snooping. So was this dad. We can sugarcoat it anyway we want, and use fancy words like public and facebook, but it was not intended for his eyes, nor did he need to see it.

[Greenday]

If it shouldn't be for his eyes, she shouldn't post it in public where he can see if he really wants to.

[MadMike]

Last time it happened, he did ground her. From his comments, she was ungrounded for a grand total of three months before doing exactly what he told her not to and attempting to hide that she did it.

Then he should have grounded her again for a longer period, not put on a vulgar display of power like he did. He's supposed to be the adult in this.

[jackfaire]

Facebook is always public. Saying it can be private is like saying standing behind a tree in a city makes you hidden: not really.

Unless it's a tree bigger than you and the person looking for you is on the other side of the tree and then it doesn't matter if your in a city if the person doesn't know your hiding behind a tree.

[Gravekeeper]

I said it's used by a lot of people to oppose any form of discipline.

Citation needed.

Because he didn't punish her for her opinion.

He literally punished her for saying something bad about him in private. Its literally no better than punishing her because he ease dropped on her complaining to her friends. You can go on all you want about whether she has a point or whether she's spoiled, but regardless of which it is she has a right to voice her opinion. Just because she's 15 doesn't mean she doesn't get to vent when she's stressed and just because he's her father doesn't mean he gets total control over what she can and cannot say to her friends just because he doesn't like it.

It disturbs me that this guy is heralded as some sort of parental hero for this, when if this was ANY other two people we'd be calling him a psycho. Can you picture the shit storm if this scenario involved him and his wife?

There was nothing private about it. Facebook is public.

Yeah, thats why it has an entire user control panel dedicated to privacy.

This entire angle of argument is completely irrelevant here because she intended for the post to be private from her parents. Just because she failed at that does not negate her intention at keeping it private.