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  • Genetic Sexual Attraction

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_sexual_attraction

    Mostly came to mind after reading that story about that father and daughter who justified their liason with this. Is it ever right to commit incest?
    "Oh wow, I can't believe how stupid I used to be and you still are."

  • #2
    Hell no, when you have sex with a non relative and gametes mix there is a wide mix of genes being fused together. If (for example) mother/son father/daughter have sex because half the genetic material from the child comes from the parent there is a much greater chance of recessive genetic conditions coming to the fore.
    The test of police efficiency is the absence of crime and disorder, not the visible evidence of police action in dealing with it. Robert Peel

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    • #3
      It says "attraction" not "irresistble urges." No, incest is not morally right.

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      • #4
        Eeeewwww! Ew ew ew ew ew!

        What the hell is wrong with some people?!

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        • #5
          People who are attracted to blood relatives need to be locked up in the mental ward and not let out until those feelings are gone.

          Most children who are a result of incestual sex do not end up normal. Is that really fair to do to a child? Not to mention IF the child lives long enough, it will have to live with the fact that its parents are related and the ridicule....

          Sorry for my passionate feelings but it's just disgusting and completely wrong. There are billions of people in this world. You do not need to be lusting after your relatives.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by blas87 View Post
            People who are attracted to blood relatives need to be locked up in the mental ward and not let out until those feelings are gone.
            There is nothing wrong with being attracted, especially if it is actually genetic. It's only wrong if you act on it.

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            • #7
              I'm gonna go be a black sheep here.... baaaa


              If you read that article, and also the link to the Westermark effect, you would come to the conclusion that your "ewwws" and "disgusts" and "completely wrongs" are indicative of the 'moral imperative' have come about because of the taboos now placed on such things.

              Also, the article referred to 2 individual human beings (who just happen to share DNA and biological parents) who meet at some stage in their lives not knowing they actually share that DNA and connection. If we got past the taboo and eww yuck thought patterns, then we can start seeing it from a different perspective. What are those 2 people supposed to think and do now? Be disgusted with themselves, and consider themselves freaks? What about the children of such circumstances? Do we shun them? Do they get disowned? Perhaps, just to satisfy everyone else's sensibilities, they ought to be executed.. would that make things ok in the world again??

              I'd also like to point something out else here as well... each and every single one of you reading this here is a product of this 'GSA'... just think back a few thousand years when a group of people were in a clan together which had very little contact with any other people. Everyone was directly or closely related to everyone else you met. Slowly - people moved, and clans expanded... but before that....???

              Genetically... no, it's not something that nature wants to happen, not when there's an alternative. But it does make me curious in another way... how do you feel about other animals in the animal kingdom?? Cats are a fantastic example. Are they just as sick and disgusting?


              (yeah - I love questions about 'morals'... everyone is always on a higher standing than everyone else who disagrees... and if you don't, you've got something wrong with you )


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              • #8
                Originally posted by Slytovhand View Post
                Genetically... no, it's not something that nature wants to happen, not when there's an alternative. But it does make me curious in another way... how do you feel about other animals in the animal kingdom?? Cats are a fantastic example. Are they just as sick and disgusting?
                Cats are (mostly) able to breed with close relatives without their progeny having any major birth defects. Even then, cats will instinctively choose to breed outside their family if given the option.

                Genetic variation is a good thing, and our innate aversion to incest is also a very good thing. I won't apologize for having an "Ew!" reaction to the thought of incest, when this reaction is completely natural and serves the evolution of the species.

                That said, if these two don't plan to procreate, I guess they can do what they want. As long as they don't have kids, no one else gets hurt. So live and let live.

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                • #9
                  When I read that article, all I could think of was that book "Flowers in the Attic" where the kids get locked up in the attic and the brother and sister start to become attracted to each other. Then they referenced it. Weird.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by anriana View Post
                    It says "attraction" not "irresistble urges."
                    Exactly my thoughts... I remember reading an article where a woman said about her liason with her half brother, "You can't help who you fall in love with." Maybe not, but no-one says you have to act on it. I know it's a big stretch, but you could say the same about pedophilia or bestality really. Just cuz an adult man is attracted to a ten year old girl is no reason for him to follow it up by grooming her for sex. The same goes for attraction to a close relative. Get psychiatric help and get it out of your system.
                    "Oh wow, I can't believe how stupid I used to be and you still are."

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                    • #11
                      If they didn't know they were relatives, then no, not ew. I won't fault to people because they just plain didn't know.

                      Now, if two people, fully knowing their relations, start at it, then yes, I'll have a problem with it.
                      Violence has resolved more conflicts than anything else. The contrary opinion that violence doesn't solve anything is merely wishful thinking at its worst. - Starship Troopers

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Greenday View Post
                        Now, if two people, fully knowing their relations, start at it, then yes, I'll have a problem with it.

                        Then you must have a serious problem with the Egyptians, and several groups that believe "cousins are made for cousins", or anyone that was previously in the mafia-they intermarried to keep the money "in the family".

                        And any Christians in here may want to re-read the story of Lot, who had sex with both of his daughters(and had children with both of them) after leaving Sodom-and that was considered perfectly ok....
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                        • #13
                          But the ancient Egyptians, nor biblical-era Christians, didn't know that interbreeding caused genetic defects in the resultant offspring.

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                          • #14
                            You can't fault people for ignorance, unless they are willfully ignorant. So I will not fault those who know nothing about the harms of incest. BUT, for those who do know the harms of it, and continue to practice incest, I will have problems with.
                            Violence has resolved more conflicts than anything else. The contrary opinion that violence doesn't solve anything is merely wishful thinking at its worst. - Starship Troopers

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by BlaqueKatt View Post
                              And any Christians in here may want to re-read the story of Lot, who had sex with both of his daughters(and had children with both of them) after leaving Sodom-and that was considered perfectly ok....
                              Christians should reread that story anyways, since he offered them up to a hoarde of men for gang rape. Righteous indeed.

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