Vaccines Forced on Student

[bara]

I would imagine that any sort of vaccinations should have to be approved by a parent first. The no medical treatment waiver is most likely for accidents like falling down the stairs. (at least from what I can remember in school). From what the mother said about a skinned knee or a headache Im assuming that it is the same here.

Definitely more to this story than is being told.

[HYHYBT]

If the school didn't give her shots, why all the mystery instead of just saying, "Um, no we didn't. We have no idea what you are talking about."

It appears that they aren't saying *anything* on the subject, at least for the time being. Which makes sense if either they are investigating to find out what exactly did happen or they have a policy of not discussing personal student information with outsiders. Both of which are likely.

Pardon the deliberate vagueness, but it's one of those things I'm not sure I'm supposed to know what I do... there was an incident in Georgia where a member of a student's family went to a TV station with an absurdly exaggerated tale. Another explained what really had happened, which wasn't even rationally anything to complain of, but because former made a nice, shocking "teachers abuse students" story and the truth didn't, they ignored the latter entirely in reporting the story. And, for privacy reasons, the school couldn't say anything about it.

It's not at all uncommon, and I'm sure there have been examples of the same sort of thing on here before. Run to the media with all the hysteria you can muster, because the school (or hospital, or whatever) cannot tell their side.

[Nyoibo]

As was said in the article and Andara touched on, it's not the school in the wrong here

The staff at the clinic must maintain confidentiality with the students and the parents of the students. Detroit Public Schools staff members are not informed of any services that are provided for any students, and this policy is regularly communicated by the clinic staff to the school staff. All paperwork or parent permission slips are provided to students who are instructed by the clinic to return it directly to the nurse.

The nurse and St. Johns are the ones who stuffed up.

[fireheart17]

The nurse and St. Johns are the ones who stuffed up.

It makes me wonder if there was a communication breakdown.

[Glados]

It doesn't matter who actually gave the vaccines. The school is responsible for the students while they are there. Someone who works for the school call the girl to the nurses office. The school administration has a responsibility to control things like this.

[Greenday]

As was said in the article and Andara touched on, it's not the school in the wrong here

Sure it is. Kid isn't supposed to get medical treatment without her mom's permission. While at school, she is under the responsibility of the school's and whatever happens there falls on them.

[Nyoibo]

It doesn't matter who actually gave the vaccines. The school is responsible for the students while they are there. Someone who works for the school call the girl to the nurses office. The school administration has a responsibility to control things like this.

Sure it is. Kid isn't supposed to get medical treatment without her mom's permission. While at school, she is under the responsibility of the school's and whatever happens there falls on them.

Ok, shall we go over this again?

From the article

Detroit Public Schools staff members are not informed of any services that are provided for any students, and this policy is regularly communicated by the clinic staff to the school staff. All paperwork or parent permission slips are provided to students who are instructed by the clinic to return it directly to the nurse.

The school is told by the nurse to call a student, they have no idea what it's for or why because of confidentiality, nor do they have the paperwork on file.

[Greenday]

The school is told by the nurse to call a student, they have no idea what it's for or why because of confidentiality, nor do they have the paperwork on file.

Sounds pretty broken to me.

[Nyoibo]

Yes and no, patient confidentiality trumps a fair number of things, in most cases it's a good thing.

[Greenday]

Yes and no, patient confidentiality trumps a fair number of things, in most cases it's a good thing.

I was under the impression that HIPPA mainly applies to adults.

[Andara Bledin]

I was under the impression that HIPPA mainly applies to adults.

Not at all. They're no more allowed to divulge a minor's condition to random people than an adult's. In the case of a minor, I suspect that any legal guardians would be privy to the information, but not anyone else.

^-.-^

[jackfaire]

I was under the impression that HIPPA mainly applies to adults.

Nope HIPPA applies to everyone regardless of age. Being a minor doesn't exempt you from the same legal protections that everyone else enjoys.

Being a minor just means that your parents have a certain level of access most other people wouldn't have.