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  • #16
    Originally posted by KnitShoni View Post
    How is it baseless? It happens. More often than you think.
    And not nearly as often as the media would love us to believe.
    Violence has resolved more conflicts than anything else. The contrary opinion that violence doesn't solve anything is merely wishful thinking at its worst. - Starship Troopers

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    • #17
      If the media reported every instance of things like this happening, they wouldn't have time to report anything else.
      Do not lead, for I may not follow. Do not follow, for I may not lead. Just go over there somewhere.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Greenday View Post
        Baseless opinion ftw!
        No more baseless than the post I responded to.

        ^-.-^
        Faith is about what you do. It's about aspiring to be better and nobler and kinder than you are. It's about making sacrifices for the good of others. - Dresden

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        • #19
          I have someone I refer to as "Crazy Neighbor W". He has some sort of mental/emotional issues, which are aggravated by drinking. He's been known to yell and howl in his apartment, usually late at night, and then the cops are called to come and perform a "health check".

          I know of only one time that W refused to open the door. Based on the conversation I heard in the hallway, the police clearly had a history with W, yet they remained calm while they pleaded, compromised and tried to convince W to open the door. They even got another neighbor and a family member to talk to him. They explained that they were required to perform a health check to make sure he was okay and they'd need to call the fire department to break down his door. And yes, they did eventually break it down, but you could tell it was as a last resort and it was to ensure W's safety and state of mind.

          This whole thing is tragic and if the video & phone evidence is as damning as the article suggests, then I wish the family all the best in suing the ass off the city and getting their officers proper training.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by KnitShoni View Post
            If the media reported every instance of things like this happening, they wouldn't have time to report anything else.
            Why? Does the news only run 5 minutes a day where you lie?
            Violence has resolved more conflicts than anything else. The contrary opinion that violence doesn't solve anything is merely wishful thinking at its worst. - Starship Troopers

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Greenday View Post
              Why? Does the news only run 5 minutes a day where you lie?
              Nice.

              At any rate: Considering this incident happened on November, and we're just now hearing about it in March, how is this: "And not nearly as often as the media would love us to believe" applicable? The media wants us to believe things like this are isolated incidents. Looks like it's working on you.
              Last edited by KnitShoni; 04-03-2012, 02:21 AM.
              Do not lead, for I may not follow. Do not follow, for I may not lead. Just go over there somewhere.

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              • #22
                Things like what, precisely?
                "My in-laws are country people and at night you can hear their distinctive howl."

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                • #23
                  Incidents of police abusing their positions to invade privacy and badger people because they're the cops, so who are you going to complain to.

                  A fascinating site regarding police misconduct statistics.

                  According to their numbers, there were an average of just over 13 reports of officer misconduct per day in the United States in 2010.

                  If you really want to get your blood boiling, read some of those reports and lawsuits they have listed. One that caught my eye was the one alleging that an officer leg-swept an 11-year-old special needs kid and then charged the child with assault on an officer.

                  ^-.-^
                  Faith is about what you do. It's about aspiring to be better and nobler and kinder than you are. It's about making sacrifices for the good of others. - Dresden

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Andara Bledin View Post
                    Incidents of police abusing their positions to invade privacy and badger people because they're the cops, so who are you going to complain to.

                    A fascinating site regarding police misconduct statistics.

                    According to their numbers, there were an average of just over 13 reports of officer misconduct per day in the United States in 2010.

                    If you really want to get your blood boiling, read some of those reports and lawsuits they have listed. One that caught my eye was the one alleging that an officer leg-swept an 11-year-old special needs kid and then charged the child with assault on an officer.

                    ^-.-^
                    Quite interesting that one of the very few "red zones" in their misconduct map is Maricopa County, AZ where "Sherrif Joe" reigns supreme.
                    Some People Are Alive Only Because It's Illegal To Kill Them.

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