Registered Sex Offenders Denied Online Gaming

[Greenday]

Also as it is about sex offenders not child sex offenders, does peeing in public still land you on the register over there?

Sure does! Doesn't matter if you do it in front of a bunch of kids or you do it in the middle of the woods where literally no one can see you.

[Andara Bledin]

Oh, yeah, I'd meant to mention this earlier: Campers beware. Bears shit in the woods, but if you do and someone spots you, you could find yourself on the registry.

Brilliant, right?

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[telecom_goddess]

Hang on... do you actually expect anyone who has a criminal offense as lying to you if they don't mention it to you? Is there something about you that I've forgotten or don't know about, such that said person would be required to mention it?

With the type of relationship we were forming, that involved a lot of honesty and trust and concerned safety then yes they would be required to mention it. And he knew that but decided not to mention it. So when I found out through someone else I was pissed off. And now that relationship is no longer.

[Nyoibo]

I was wondering that, would they charge both or just go
"Man has penis, penis bad, man bad." even if the girl instigated it.

Well they do that too.

[HYHYBT]

While we're at it... why is "she lied about her age" NOT a valid defense, no matter to what degree of trouble she went through (say, getting a convincing fake ID) or whether you can prove it?

[Andara Bledin]

While we're at it... why is "she lied about her age" NOT a valid defense, no matter to what degree of trouble she went through (say, getting a convincing fake ID) or whether you can prove it?

Because, "Man, penis, bad!"

Personally, I think it's bullshit. If a person, no matter what age, goes through that amount of work to pull off such a deception, they should be the ones in trouble, not the hapless guy who had no possible way of knowing she wasn't actually legal.

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[Nyoibo]

From memory it's actually been used as a succesful defence here before, guy picked up a girl in a bar, she was drinking alcohol on a licensed premises, they went, had sex and then it came out she was 15, the court found that he had a perfectly reasonable expectation that she was overage so he wasn't found guilty.

[Lace Neil Singer]

In a situation like that, he's got someone to back him up; ie, the bar staff. If the girl had a fake ID and showed it, then she's obviously deliberately trying to deceive. Also, if he picked her up in a bar, then he can reasonably be expected to think that she's legal, whereas if he picked her up outside a school, then he wouldn't.

[DrFaroohk]

They need to change the law so that all that has to happen is the girl has to say "I'm legally of age". and it's no longer statutory rape. Solve a lot of problems right?

Now...how do these fuckin people sleep at night? Say you're a judge, and you've got a real ambiguous case in front of you. According to the strictest definition of the law, the man before you in a serial rapist. According to common sense, he's someone who fucked a girl 2 days before her 18th birthday. How can you lump that guy in with the same pedophiles that stalk the playgrounds and sentence this guy accordingly????

[Gravekeeper]

How can you lump that guy in with the same pedophiles that stalk the playgrounds and sentence this guy accordingly????

Easy! By being a part of a justice system that inexpliable uses an election system. Thus making your job half justice, half political catering. So you're not thinking "How is justice served" you're thinking "How is my reputation served".

[s_stabeler]

They need to change the law so that all that has to happen is the girl has to say "I'm legally of age". and it's no longer statutory rape. Solve a lot of problems right?

Now...how do these fuckin people sleep at night? Say you're a judge, and you've got a real ambiguous case in front of you. According to the strictest definition of the law, the man before you in a serial rapist. According to common sense, he's someone who fucked a girl 2 days before her 18th birthday. How can you lump that guy in with the same pedophiles that stalk the playgrounds and sentence this guy accordingly????

your first point- how would you prove it? remember that "she said she was of age" is an affirmative defense, i.e. you admit you did it but should be let off, so the standard of proof is higher. It's also why the underage kid is let off- she's considered incapable of giving consent, so is thought of as the victim. I don't (always) agree- if a fake ID was used to convince the older person, then i think it's the underage kid that should be punished for entrapment- but it's the rationale behind it.

[gremcint]

When are we going to stop punishing people for past crimes? Either they've been sufficiently punished or they haven't. If they haven't, then why are they free? Stop punishing people for who they used to be.

why does punishment only have to be jail, people are put in group homes, put under house arrest, made to pay fines, do community service and more outside of jail so why can't this be part of it.

[Greenday]

why does punishment only have to be jail, people are put in group homes, put under house arrest, made to pay fines, do community service and more outside of jail so why can't this be part of it.

Because why should people stop committing crimes if we are never going to stop punishing them for the first one they did? None of those things you stated are lifetime punishments.

[Andara Bledin]

Because why should people stop committing crimes if we are never going to stop punishing them for the first one they did? None of those things you stated are lifetime punishments.

Actually, two out of the three can be lifetime punishments. It's just that they usually aren't used in that manner.

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[crashhelmet]

They need to change the law so that all that has to happen is the girl has to say "I'm legally of age". and it's no longer statutory rape. Solve a lot of problems right?

Now...how do these fuckin people sleep at night? Say you're a judge, and you've got a real ambiguous case in front of you. According to the strictest definition of the law, the man before you in a serial rapist. According to common sense, he's someone who fucked a girl 2 days before her 18th birthday. How can you lump that guy in with the same pedophiles that stalk the playgrounds and sentence this guy accordingly????

That's why they call it the "Age of Consent." As much as they may want it, they're not old enough to legally give consent to it. An adult would have to prove deception in order to get out of it.