Fatties and their Haters

[Flyndaran]

So accepting people who are poor, disabled, ect, is admitting defeat? It's admitting defeat when someone who has to use a wheelchair, says "I can't walk". They're supposed to overcome that?

Losing weight is normally much much easier than relearning to walk.
One should always fight their flaws, and being overweight is a flaw.
I am not saying that one should exhaust oneself fighting what they see as impossible or destroying of what they need to enjoy life.
I understand if some obese person accepts the shortened lifespan and reduced level of health if they really need that extra meal to enjoy life.
Just don't give up fighting.
To paraphrase Don Quixote, love the person you may become, not the person you are.

[Boozy]

One should always fight their flaws, and being overweight is a flaw.

I disagree with that. Some people are happier accepting their flaws. In some cases, the cure is worse than the disease. If someone is overweight but is a happy person with a rich and rewarding life, and dieting will make them unhappy, why bother?

[Flyndaran]

I disagree with that. Some people are happier accepting their flaws. In some cases, the cure is worse than the disease. If someone is overweight but is a happy person with a rich and rewarding life, and dieting will make them unhappy, why bother?

It's an unhealthy physical imperfection. Is that better?
The middle of my post talked about how the cure could be worse than the disease as you put it.
But that doesn't mean that everyone should just give up.

[Nyoibo]

So accepting people who are poor, disabled, ect, is admitting defeat? It's admitting defeat when someone who has to use a wheelchair, says "I can't walk". They're supposed to overcome that?

Yes it is, being poor is no reason to just sit back and say "well, I can't do anything I'm poor" get an education, get a better job, do something to better your situation. Disabled is no excuse either, I've known disabled people who didn't let their disabilities stand in the way of doing anything, blind guy who became an olympic Judo competitor, wheel chair, they play a mean game of basket ball, the only thing they need help with most of the time is getting things off high shelves, so yes, they overcame that. Using a disability as a crutch or an excuse to never do anything or try anything is bull, unless you are physically unable to do something, and then you find a way around it, don't just say "I can't do it I'm ..."

[AFPheonix]

It's an unhealthy physical imperfection. Is that better?
The middle of my post talked about how the cure could be worse than the disease as you put it.
But that doesn't mean that everyone should just give up.

If someone understands the risks involved and still chooses to be obese and is happy there, then more power to them.
Just like how I understand the risks associated with me not wearing a helmet when I ride my colts, and am happy without it.

[Flyndaran]

If someone understands the risks involved and still chooses to be obese and is happy there, then more power to them.
Just like how I understand the risks associated with me not wearing a helmet when I ride my colts, and am happy without it.

I agree. And I wouldn't begrudge you public or medical assistance.

[violetyoshi]

Losing weight is normally much much easier than relearning to walk.
One should always fight their flaws, and being overweight is a flaw.
I am not saying that one should exhaust oneself fighting what they see as impossible or destroying of what they need to enjoy life.
I understand if some obese person accepts the shortened lifespan and reduced level of health if they really need that extra meal to enjoy life.
Just don't give up fighting.
To paraphrase Don Quixote, love the person you may become, not the person you are.

So you only accept perfect people like yourself, with no flaws?

[Flyndaran]

So you only accept perfect people like yourself, with no flaws?

That came out of so far of left field that I have no clue what you are asking.
I have repeatedly written about my problems. I never once even implied that I lack my severe emotional problems.

Is it my paraphrased quote that gave you problems? If so, I don't mean "love" as "accept" as you may think. I meant it as admiration or extreme pride along a path of self-improvement. If not, then I truly have no idea what you meant.

[violetyoshi]

That came out of so far of left field that I have no clue what you are asking.
I have repeatedly written about my problems. I never once even implied that I lack my severe emotional problems.

Is it my paraphrased quote that gave you problems? If so, I don't mean "love" as "accept" as you may think. I meant it as admiration or extreme pride along a path of self-improvement. If not, then I truly have no idea what you meant.

You said, "One should always fight their flaws", so I'm wondering if that means you'll only be accepting of people who spend all their time obsessing over fighting their flaws, rather than living life?

[the_std]

You said, "One should always fight their flaws", so I'm wondering if that means you'll only be accepting of people who spend all their time obsessing over fighting their flaws, rather than living life?

Why always take it to the extreme like that? One doesn't have to be constantly engaged in actively trying to fight their flaws. You can live your life and fight your bad side too. It is possible to be a balanced human being, y'know.

[the_std]

I see well why then is it acceptable for people to "always take it to the extreme like that" when it comes to shaming, and shunning fat people?

When did I advocate that? I just pointed out you taking the previous quote the wrong way. I'd ask you not to put any words in my mouth, thanks.

[Flyndaran]

You said, "One should always fight their flaws", so I'm wondering if that means you'll only be accepting of people who spend all their time obsessing over fighting their flaws, rather than living life?

I already said that if the fight gets too hard, then by all means ease off for personal happiness. You are getting dangerously close trolling with your constant misrepresening of others' posts.

[Boozy]

That came out of so far of left field that I have no clue what you are asking.....
Is it my paraphrased quote that gave you problems? .

You said, "One should always fight their flaws", so I'm wondering if that means you'll only be accepting of people who spend all their time obsessing over fighting their flaws, rather than living life?

This is why it is so important to edit quotes. Flyndaran had no idea what you were responding to, because you quoted his entire post instead of just the one line. It took a few posts back and forth to get the debate back on track.

Everyone should please try to edit quotes as much as possible to avoid this kind of confusion. Thanks.

[violetyoshi]

When did I advocate that? I just pointed out you taking the previous quote the wrong way. I'd ask you not to put any words in my mouth, thanks.

I was asking a question generally of people. I'm sorry you took it personally.

[Boozy]

I was asking a question generally of people. I'm sorry you took it personally.

I believe that she took it as a response to one of her posts because you quoted her when you said it.