Yeah, I read that this morning. I'm quite sure I can think of more than a few people more than willing to oblige him on that.
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Originally posted by Rubyred View PostPlease please please give me ONE example of a situation where kidnapping and torure of a child was condoned.
“ Cassel: If the President deems that he’s got to torture somebody, including by crushing the testicles of the person’s child, there is no law that can stop him?
Yoo: No treaty.
Cassel: Also no law by Congress. That is what you wrote in the August 2002 memo.
Yoo: I think it depends on why the President thinks he needs to do that. “
the memo yoo wrote justifying the use of torture.
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***update***
The too fat to be executed plea has FAILED!
http://www.associatedcontent.com/art...eds_after.html
See ya in Hell, Richard Cooey!There are no stupid questions, just stupid people...
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Originally posted by tropicsgoddess View PostSee ya in Hell, Richard Cooey!
/rant"Children are our future" -LaceNeilSinger
"And that future is fucked...with a capital F" -AmethystHunter
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Originally posted by DesignFox View PostAlso, I'm not talking about a one time offender. I DO believe that people make mistakes, and while I ask that they PAY for their mistakes, I don't ask for a punishment that is disproportionate to the crime.
just to play devil's advocate here Mr Cooney only committed the one crime(he'd been on death row for for 22 years-which is almost the normal length of incarceration to be eligible for parole)-so he is a one time offender, and if you listen to his family and lawyers he was under the influence of drugs and alcohol at the time he committed the rape/murder.
So by your own statements he should get a pass, as well as many others.
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Originally posted by AdminAssistant View PostI personally don't want my tax money spent keeping these wastes of humanity alive. Maybe that makes me heartless - but I don't care.
A New Jersey Policy Perspectives report concluded that the state's death penalty has cost taxpayers $253 million since 1983, a figure that is over and above the costs that would have been incurred had the state utilized a sentence of life without parole instead of death. The study examined the costs of death penalty cases to prosecutor offices, public defender offices, courts, and correctional facilities.
Tennessee
Death penalty trials cost an average of 48% more than the average cost of trials in which prosecutors seek life imprisonment.
and that's just the trial
The investigation costs for death-sentence cases were about 3 times greater than for non-death cases.
The trial costs for death cases were about 16 times greater than for non-death cases ($508,000 for death case; $32,000 for non-death case).
The appeal costs for death cases were 21 times greater.
Indiana
Total cost of Indiana's death penalty is 38% greater than the total cost of life without parole sentences
North Carolina
The most comprehensive death penalty study in the country(conducted by Duke university) found that the death penalty costs North Carolina $2.16 million more per execution than the a non-death penalty murder case with a sentence of life imprisonment. On a national basis, these figures translate to an extra cost of over $1 billion spent since 1976 on the death penalty
Florida
Florida would save $51 million each year by punishing all first-degree murderers with life in prison without parole, according to estimates by the Palm Beach Post. Based on the 44 executions Florida has carried out since 1976, that amounts to an approximate cost of $24 million for each execution.
California
California spends $90 Million dollars annually above and beyond the ordinary costs of the justice system on capital cases. $78 million of that total is incurred at the trial level.
According to state and federal records obtained by The Los Angeles Times, maintaining the California death penalty system costs taxpayers more than $114 million a year beyond the cost of simply keeping the convicts locked up for life. This figure does not count the millions more spent on court costs to prosecute capital cases. It costs $90,000 more a year to house one inmate on death row, where each person has a private cell and extra guards, than in general prison population. With California’s current death row population of 670, that accounts for $63.3 million annually.”
Think of what that taxpayer money could do to help, rather than being "wasted to execute prisoners". The $63 million California spends EACH YEAR could go a long way towards, drug rehab, Gang intervention, assistance for the homeless, domestic violence prevention and assistance(which is horribly underfunded-The Attorney General’s Office has administered the Spousal Abuser Prosecution Program, a local assistance program that funds prosecution units for the prosecution of domestic violence cases in City Attorney's and District Attorney's Offices statewide, since 1994. The grants range from $37,000 to $120,000.-that's a far cry from $63 million) which could prevent some murders.
Spending the money on "vengance" rather than prevention is closing the door after the cow is already out.
*The Death Penalty Information Center is a non-profit organization serving the media and the public with analysis and information on issues concerning capital punishment.
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Originally posted by BlaqueKatt View Postjust to play devil's advocate here Mr Cooney only committed the one crime(he'd been on death row for for 22 years-which is almost the normal length of incarceration to be eligible for parole)-so he is a one time offender, and if you listen to his family and lawyers he was under the influence of drugs and alcohol at the time he committed the rape/murder.
So by your own statements he should get a pass, as well as many others.
Two victims. Multiple crimes against both of them.
This is an example of a violent animalistic crime. Drugs and alcohol being involved doesn't give this guy a pass, either. That just adds to his roster of crimes committed. Oh, and let's not forget the part about impersonating emergency care providers.
Death Penalty worked in this case.
I really didnt think it was necessary to be that specific on my meaning, but apparently I was mistaken..."Children are our future" -LaceNeilSinger
"And that future is fucked...with a capital F" -AmethystHunter
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Put a bullet in his head. Problem solved.
I gotta say, in some ways, I like the way they did it in colonial times. You were on death row just long enough for the undertaker to build your coffin. None of this 25+ years of appeals stuff.
I'm not saying capital punishment doesn't have some flaws that need to be worked out, but for people like this who are repeat violent offenders with no chance of rehabilitation, even using some sort of excuse as this to try and avoid it, I say we bring back the firing squad.
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I am strongly against capital punishment.
Why? Wrongful convictions.
Such examples as:
Donald Marshall Jr., David Milgaard, Guy Paul Morin, Steven Truscott
Originally posted by WikipediaMarshall was sentenced to life imprisonment for murdering acquaintance Sandy Seale in 1971. ... Marshall spent 11 years in jail before being acquitted by the Nova Scotia Court of Appeal in 1983.Originally posted by WikipediaDavid Milgaard (born July 7, 1952 in Winnipeg, Manitoba) is a Canadian who was wrongfully convicted for the murder and rape of nursing assistant Gail Miller ... He appealed his conviction several times, but was blocked both by bureaucracy and by a justice system unreceptive to those who were not willing to admit their guilt. His formal application was completed in 1988, but was not considered until 1991 after a Liberal MP, Lloyd Axworthy addressed the Parliament [note here that I am not a supporter of the Liberal Party of Canada, but do find it flattering that they steal policies from the party I support] ... On September 30, 2003, the Saskatchewan government announced that a Royal Commission would investigate Milgaard's wrongful conviction, and on February 20, 2004, Justice Edward P. MacCallum was announced as the Commissioner.[1] Douglas Hodson was later appointed as commission counsel. On September 26, 2008, Justice Minister Don Morgan released the findings of the Milgaard inquiry
Originally posted by WikipediaGuy Paul Morin is a Canadian who was wrongly convicted of the October 1984 murder of his nine-year-old next-door neighbour, Christine Jessop of Queensville, Ontario. DNA testing led to a subsequent overturning of this verdict[in 1995]Originally posted by WikipediaTruscott was scheduled to be hanged on December 8, 1959; however, a temporary reprieve on November 20, 1959 postponed his execution to February 16, 1960 to allow for an appeal. On January 22, 1960, his death sentence was commuted to life imprisonment.
Consider if ANY of these were executed. Then found innocent after their death, or the actual criminal never found because the wrongfully convicted party couldn't appeal.
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