Your son/daughter has autism? DENIED!

[fireheart17]

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/s...-1226393535623

So a family from the UK are trying to enter Australia under legitimate conditions, they've done everything right...and their visa is denied because their 25-year-old daughter has autism.

This is despite the fact that the daughter:

-Holds 2 jobs.
-Volunteers with local youth groups. (Scouts and Guides)
-Is aiming to be a hairdresser.
-Is classed as "High functioning"

AND on top of that, they would be moving to a rural town, rather than the big city.

The reason for the denial? Because apparently it would be a HUGE burden in terms of health costs if she were to stay there.

This isn't the first time they've refused entry to someone who's child has autism. The difference between that story and this story however is that the child in the other story is still quite young, the dad is a doctor and the medical facility agreed to cover the families health costs, since apparently it's going to be a drain on the health system.

In all honesty, I really do have to wonder if we should start screening all potential migrants who want to come to Australia for "potential health liabilities"

Morbidly obese? Diabetic? family history of diabetes? Nope, sorry, we only want perfectly healthy people. -.-

[Nyoibo]

Considering we have a frakkin police shortage as it is, this is even more stupid.

[SkullKing]

Can you please explain, why does a shortage of police makes this worse?

[daleduke17]

Yet, isn't government provided healthcare supposed to be the best thing ever?

Another reason to not have it in the United States of America.

[fireheart17]

Can you please explain, why does a shortage of police makes this worse?

Because the dad is a cop and we've been running this program for yonks where cops from the UK can some over to Australia.

Yet, isn't government provided healthcare supposed to be the best thing ever?

Another reason to not have it in the United States of America.

In terms of therapies and whatnot, most funding for autistic folks is aimed at early intervention strategies. It tends to stop once the kid hits 7. Anything after that is entirely out of the parents own pocket, either through insurance or otherwise.

From the tone of the article, it appears to be suggesting about the cost on the community. Which of course, seems to imply that somehow, autism is contagious -.-

[crashhelmet]

Yet, isn't government provided healthcare supposed to be the best thing ever?

Another reason to not have it in the United States of America.

Are you kidding? This would be a reason for the Republicans and Anti-immigration people to support it. Imagine how many Visas, green cards, and citizenship requests they could deny if they requesters had health issues?

[fireheart17]

I'm proud to say that this story has a happy ending.

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/s...-1226394892643

The family is being allowed in after the Federal Government intervened. On top of that, SA Police are going to honour their original employment offer.

Part of the "problem" was the assumption that the 25-year-old daughter's medical care was going to cost upwards of $500,000. This is despite the fact that she worked two jobs, had plans to become a hairdresser over here and very rarely sought medical care back home.

There's now calls for the policy to be reviewed and/or scrapped completely.

[Greenday]

From the tone of the article, it appears to be suggesting about the cost on the community. Which of course, seems to imply that somehow, autism is contagious -.-

How did you go from the first part, which is a fair assumption, to the second?

If a someone enters a country with free health care, now that country has to spend resources on yet one more person. If that person has a health problem, they will cost even more.

It's a matter of not wanting people who want to leech on the system.

[fireheart17]

How did you go from the first part, which is a fair assumption, to the second?

If a someone enters a country with free health care, now that country has to spend resources on yet one more person. If that person has a health problem, they will cost even more.

It's a matter of not wanting people who want to leech on the system.

Sorry, that wasn't my assumption, that was what I'd gained from the actual article.

Also, it's not ENTIRELY "free" health care. There are certain services which aren't covered by Medicare (including dental, selected psychiatry services, dietary services, cosmetic surgery and ambulance trips, among other things) which either end up being paid for out of pocket, or through private health insurance.

The girl in the above article is entirely self-sufficient (works 2 jobs and is going to be a hairdresser down here, so not relying on the disability pension). It was just that one label that was stopping her from entering. If they'd put on the application that she didn't have autism, chances are, it wouldn't have been in the news. Also, the general ruling with these cases is that if the parents are employed, the company needs to be willing to cover the medical costs of that child to be allowed to stay.

[Greenday]

If they'd put on the application that she didn't have autism, chances are, it wouldn't have been in the news.

If they'd put on the application that she didn't have autism, chances are they would have just been accepted in the first place it seems. Because of the reason I pointed out, she got lumped in with the general group despite being an exception.

[jackfaire]

Okay uhm given whom the original immigrants of Australia were they are turning people away for what now?

[Nekojin]

The historical basis for Australia is irrelevant when talking about the modern immigration policies. Just as you wouldn't punish a man for his father's crimes, so too is the fact that Australia was founded as an English penal colony completely irrelevant with regard to anything modern. It's a historical fact, and nothing more.

[jackfaire]

It's a historical fact, and nothing more.

Right which is why people never mention that American politicians have no right to bar illegal immigrants given that many of their ancestors were illegal immigrants.

[Nekojin]

Right which is why people never mention that American politicians have no right to bar illegal immigrants given that many of their ancestors were illegal immigrants.

That makes no sense at all.

[jackfaire]

That makes no sense at all.

My point is that an extremely common argument for why Illegal Immigration should be allowed in the USA is the fact that the original immigrants who many of the politicians in power descended from were themselves illegal immigrants. In fact it's one of the only arguments about why it's okay for people to just show up in the country and expect to be citizens.

So it would stand to reason that a similar argument could be made for other countries that if they have origins of questionable value that it is equally wrong that they pass negative judgment on others who wish to immigrate. The argument would seem even stronger in fact since in that case we are talking about people legally immigrating to Australia and not just illegally.

People use "Ancestral behavior" as a "why you should be more understanding" in many different cases.

In fact it's used for everything from "why you should be apologizing to every minority that your ancestors hurt" to "why the world owes us an apology and our own country"

Doesn't matter that the people alive today had nothing to do with any of the bad things done. It's still a common political tool.