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  • #16
    There tend to be 'poor people' scholarships too.

    And scholarships based solely on grades.

    I mean, if the ONLY scholarships were race-related, that'd be one thing. But there's scholarships for a lot of things, so... I don't see this as a huge problem.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by Hyena Dandy View Post
      There tend to be 'poor people' scholarships too.

      And scholarships based solely on grades.

      I mean, if the ONLY scholarships were race-related, that'd be one thing. But there's scholarships for a lot of things, so... I don't see this as a huge problem.
      My high school had a huge list of scholarships to apply for. Since I wasn't black, Asian, female, Italian, Irish, a jock, or the valedictorian, I wasn't able to apply for any of them. So yea, I see it as a problem.

      Historically, I don't care. This isn't the early 1900s. Minorities aren't so grossly at a disadvantage anymore that it's okay to give them scholarships purely because the color of their skin isn't white.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by Greenday View Post
        Historically, I don't care. This isn't the early 1900s. Minorities aren't so grossly at a disadvantage anymore that it's okay to give them scholarships purely because the color of their skin isn't white.
        Except that nobody gets a scholarship based purely on the color of their skin - that's merely a criteria that cuts the field down.

        One thing to consider in the overall scheme is that we have absolutely no idea of the actual demographics on which students actually want to go to college and which ones actually have the chops to succeed in college, so we really have no way to know which groups are being discriminated against.

        Well, other than the poor. The poor get shafted no matter what.

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        • #19
          Private scholarships can offer their grants to whomever the hell they please - private funds, private decisions. AFAIK, the scholarship in question here is indeed a private scholarship.

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          • #20
            It seems fair to me that someone who wants to give away their own money gets to decide who it goes to based on whatever criteria they want.
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            • #21
              see also www.scholarshipzone.us/register

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              • #22
                Originally posted by daleduke17 View Post
                So, if a scholarship for "African-Americans" is won by a caucasian who moved from Africa to America or an Egyptian (Libyan, Moroccan, etc)...would they still qualify for it as they are technically African-Americans (just not the normal definition that has been accepted into language today)?

                Also, there should not be any race related scholarships unless they give one to caucasians. White folk scholarships where you have to be white to get it. Not racist, is it?
                Lord have mercy. Go research scholarships, please. There are scholarships for people of European descent. They make up part of the 5-10% of scholarship awarded that take race into consideration.

                How do people think these scholarships are awarded? You don't just send in a photo. You have to meet the same requirements you do for scholarships that don't consider race a factor.

                Edit: http://www.finaid.org/scholarships/2...holarships.pdf That's a good place to start.
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                • #23
                  A quick check at the uni I go to reveals the following scholarships (not the actual names):

                  -One for children of veterans to study.
                  -One to encourage people to study in agricultural-related fields.
                  -Work-study scholarship for students to study environmental science and do some research during break.
                  -International Exchange scholarships (for Australian students) (there's about half a dozen of these, both private and government-funded)
                  -Scholarships for honours students to actually study.
                  -One for medical students to study multiple sclerosis during their break.
                  -Scholarship to study part of your course in Asia.
                  -Scholarship for if you have to relocate as part of your study.
                  -low-income earner scholarships.

                  And a TON of research scholarships for postgrad students.

                  There are also a number of scholarships available for Indigenous students and a program where the army/navy/air force can pay for your degree, but in return, you serve them once you've graduated.

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                  • #24
                    Well, I couldn't get any of those. The last one is the only one I could apply for but because I'm not dirt poor I'd probably not get it.
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Greenday View Post
                      It was for African-Americans only. He's from African and now he's an American, that makes him an African-American.
                      That's why that label is a huge problem. Not everyone from Africa is black, and not every black person is from Africa and/or America. (Shit, if you want to get really technical, all humans originated in Africa, so we're pretty much all "African-Somethings.")

                      What do you call a black citizen from England? Not African American.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Seifer View Post
                        What do you call a black citizen from England? Not African American.
                        Personally, seeing as I'm from America and nowhere else, I'd just call myself an American. No reason to throw a dash in front of it because people from a few generations back came here.
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Greenday View Post
                          Personally, seeing as I'm from America and nowhere else, I'd just call myself an American. No reason to throw a dash in front of it because people from a few generations back came here.
                          And I'd agree. Is it really that offensive for a scholarship to state that it's for black Americans? Do they really have to say "African-Americans" in the attempt to be politically correct?

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Seifer View Post
                            And I'd agree. Is it really that offensive for a scholarship to state that it's for black Americans? Do they really have to say "African-Americans" in the attempt to be politically correct?
                            Yes, "black" is such an outdated term currently. Like a past coworker of mine said: "I've been a negro, I've been black and I've been an African-American... I really don't know what I am going to be called next."

                            Here's also a look at what happened in Rhode Island when someone tried making (although satirically) a white heterosexual American male scholarship:

                            http://voices.yahoo.com/no-special-s...ca-310926.html

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                            • #29
                              This is usually the case I use to prove my point about how it's okay to give people special treatment unless they are white males. The WHAM scholarship really proves how stacked things can be against us. Because not only do we not get special treatment, we then get negative treatment all in order to "level the playing field".
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Greenday View Post
                                This is usually the case I use to prove my point about how it's okay to give people special treatment unless they are white males. The WHAM scholarship really proves how stacked things can be against us. Because not only do we not get special treatment, we then get negative treatment all in order to "level the playing field".
                                The whole of society gives you special treatment. You want more?
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