Students don't want sex ed from teachers

[fireheart17]

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/studen...-1226418359247

Apparently they only want their sex educators to be a little bit older and from community groups.

OK....would they like porn stars then?!

(and for the record, sex ed is taught at all public schools but the level and amount of content varies, for instance one school might start at Year Six, while another school won't start until Year 7)

[Greenday]

My guess is they mean they don't want some old fart teaching them the outdated crap the teachers learned back when they were in high school however many decades ago. They want people closer to their age who are more in touch with today's youth who aren't going to BS them.

[fireheart17]

My guess is they mean they don't want some old fart teaching them the outdated crap the teachers learned back when they were in high school however many decades ago. They want people closer to their age who are more in touch with today's youth who aren't going to BS them.

Possibly. Although from my point of view anyway, most of the sex education these days down here is taught and supplemented with stuff from the local sexual health service. (they don't cover abortion, they do cover pregnancy)

[HYHYBT]

OK....would they like porn stars then?!

Yes, please.

Over here, adults (or at least those in charge) don't want sex ed taught at all, or if it must be, taught only in a useless manner. We learned WAY more when I went through it in 1989 than they're allowed to now.

I admit, though, it *was* a bit uncomfortable hearing about sex, much less having to discuss it, with someone of parental age. Is that really surprising to anyone, once you ask the question?

[siead_lietrathua]

i think it would be appropriate if they wanted someone in the medical field, like a nurse, come in to teach them. but it would only be of any use if they dropped the abstinance-only stances and were willing to teach them proper human sexuality classes.

[fireheart17]

i think it would be appropriate if they wanted someone in the medical field, like a nurse, come in to teach them. but it would only be of any use if they dropped the abstinance-only stances and were willing to teach them proper human sexuality classes.

For the record, all public schools in Australia do not do the "Abstinence only" programs. Rather it's progressively from Year Five/Six onwards that students go through the aspects. Generally Years Five and Six cover the whole "what's happening to me/where do babies come from/why am I bleeding out my vagina every month/why do those boys have a huge lump in their pants?" type-questions, then in Years Seven-Nine, they do a rehash of that and also cover the contraception and STI's in greater detail.

And thank you for reminding me that I need to remember to put some pads in my "teachers basket" for when I'm out at school next term. (I have Year Six/Seven students)

I am not 100% sure what the private schools do, although I am aware that a huge number of them refused to hand out consent forms to their Year 8 and 12 girls to receive the Gardasil vaccine (when it was first introduced), citing that it promoted "sexual promiscuity". >.>

[Lace Neil Singer]

When I had sex ed in third year, it was completely useless. I learned far more about sex ed by reading teen magazines than from the official one.

Oh yeah, and my mum had already given me some instruction previously. I learned about periods at the age of ten, from a book she gave me, and basic sex ed a few years later. In my opinion, parents ought to teach their kids more about this kind of thing, rather than relying solely on schools to do it.

Remember that bit at the beginning of Carrie, when she starts her period in the shower and gets scared cuz she doesn't know what's happening to her? Apparently, a lot of girls go thru that nowadays, cuz their parents can't be bothered to tell them about periods.

[siead_lietrathua]

*headdesk*
i hate the guardasil controversy so much. "hey, there's this drug that can help keep away a disease that could give you cancer! but we won't give it to you because we assume it will turn ya'll into little sluts"
*sigh*

and i know the australian public schools are good, but still not that great. it's not standerdized across the board, and varies from teacher to teacher.
another article:
http://www.theage.com.au/national/pu...704-21hpd.html

[Gravekeeper]

Things are wildly different up in the great white north here. Schools can't just not teach something because they personally oppose it and the cirriculum has to be kept up to date.

Our sex ed was very wide ranging. It covers the basics sure, but it goes into contraception, how to properly use said contraception, etc as well as how to perform various cancer searching examinations on your vital bits like breast/testicular exams. The latter part was quite entertaining as our science teacher ( who was always very much a comedian ) referred to them only by acronym ( SBE, STE ) and asked for volunteers to demonstrate for the class before explaining what they were. -.-

But I mean up here in high school we had condom machines in the washrooms. 25 cents a pop. And most girls were on the pill on top of that. The attitude is very much "Its not like we can stop you anyway, so here at least be safe about it and know what you're doing" up around these parts.

[fireheart17]

and i know the australian public schools are good, but still not that great. it's not standerdized across the board, and varies from teacher to teacher.
another article:
http://www.theage.com.au/national/pu...704-21hpd.html

Whoops, sorry, I should've said that my state was standardized.

Although hopefully with the National Curriculum, the main subjects are all covered across the state. They're currently working on the Health/PE, Arts and Design/Technology aspects, since it's kinda hard to cover LOTE and not all schools can afford a LOTE teacher. (Language Other Than English)

[HYHYBT]

...why do those boys have a huge lump in their pants?..."

No wonder tourism is big business in Australia...

[fireheart17]

No wonder tourism is big business in Australia...

Dammit I almost doused my laptop in soup!

Stupid out-of-context quote! >.>

[Racket_Man]

When I had sex ed in third year, it was completely useless. I learned far more about sex ed by reading teen magazines than from the official one.

Oh yeah, and my mum had already given me some instruction previously. I learned about periods at the age of ten, from a book she gave me, and basic sex ed a few years later. In my opinion, parents ought to teach their kids more about this kind of thing, rather than relying solely on schools to do it.

Remember that bit at the beginning of Carrie, when she starts her period in the shower and gets scared cuz she doesn't know what's happening to her? Apparently, a lot of girls go thru that nowadays, cuz their parents can't be bothered to tell them about periods.

I grew up in the age (60's) where sex and sex education was NOT talked about in the home. at around the age of 8 or so (late 1960's) when I started to ask "those" questions, my parents freaked for a day or two and then threw me some "books" (non-religious) about how male and female bodies worked, sex and how pregancy happened, and then told me (in a voice that said not to) "if you have any questions ask".

Sex Ed was almost non-existant in my primay schooling. in HS freshman biology we did cover the internal workings and Veneral Diseases(AIDS and herpies were off in the future) but little else.



most of what I learned about sex and sex ed was gleaned from Playboy, Letters to Penthouse, Oui and other assorted adult mens mags of the day.

Yes I knew enough to know what periods were, how not to get a girl pregant, and a little about foreplay. The rest I had to figure out on my own and "OJT" experience.

I knew enough to know that many of the ways to not get a girl pregant were just old wives tales and myths.

I REALLY wish there had been more effort to break out of the Victorian era type of taboo about (at the very least) sex ed in my era.

[Seifer]

I know it's sad, but I learned more about sex from NC-17 fanfiction than I did in my sex-ed classes. I did watch a video of a lady giving birth, though. That was...educational.

[jackfaire]

The only girl in my grade to get pregnant in my high school was the one whose parents opted her out of sex ed.