Is Principal wrong in outing gay student?

[jedimaster91]

I personally do not agree with the practice of homosexuality. However, what this principal did is wrong on the highest level. A student came to him in confidence and he betrayed her trust. That is unforgivable. Just because I don't agree with your lifestyle choice doesn't mean it isn't your right to live in the manner you see fit so long as you're not infringing on anyone else's rights. This is one time I applaud the ACLU for getting involved. He had no right to harrass his students.

[Sylvia727]

Hell, when I was in school I hated the ones running my joint, because they wouldn't do shit about the bullies giving me crap - they almost always sided with them!

YES. As horrible as the Columbine shootings were, a lot of people finally opened their eyes to the true horrors of school bullying after that. Adults that tell students to "suck it up" only damage them further. Teenagers are sophisticated these days, and can inflict terrible things on their classmates. Any adult that not only fails to prevent, but also encourages, school bullying at the very least has no place in a school. And I personally think they ought to be whacked upside the head a few times a day until they understand.

[smileyeagle1021]

I already had my answer just from reading the thread title... the principle should be put to death in unique and painful ways... if someone tells you something in confidence, especially something as seriously as becoming aware of their sexual orientation, you have an obligation to keep it confidential, until such time that the person who came to you tells you otherwise. I've known people who have been outed, and anyone who would inflict that, in my humble opinion, does not deserve to be on this planet... he's wasting resources that could be better used by the real humans.

[MadMike]

They say that God created everyone equal. Then going by that, he created Gays also.

I made the same point years ago, on another message board. I wasn't always the well-behaved moderator type that I am now, and flamed quite a few idiots back then.

There was this discussion about homosexuality, which pretty much came down to an argument between several gay people, and some religious nuts who were either condemning them, or trying to "help" them by urging them to change their "evil" ways and turn straight.

I stepped in and raised the question that if being gay was such a horrible sin, then why did God make people that way?

Oh, you should have seen the cussing out I got from one of these so-called people of God. It was totally worth it.

[powerboy]

I made the same point years ago, on another message board.

Whoa, MadMike and I made the same comment on two different boards. Now, that's cool. I also made that comment on another board and I got IP banned shortly after.

[AFPheonix]

Not to mention the fact that Jesus himself was pretty much a Commie who liked to slum around with the tax collectors and prostitutes. Today's religious conservatives look very little like the original church, even those like the Plymouth Brethren who try to practice exactly like the Acts church did.

I guess this is going to be a battle much like the Civil Rights movement was in the 60's and 70's until some of these old coots finally keel over and take their anger and hate with them.

[Flyndaran]

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I stepped in and raised the question that if being gay was such a horrible sin, then why did God make people that way?
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That's a very feeble argument. If X is a horrible sin, then why did god make people that way. If serial killing is a sin, then why did god make any?

As an atheist, I refuse to turn any religious nut's argument to religion.

The simply fact is that adult sex practices and who one can have a loving non-harmful relationship with is no one's business but their own.

I didn't choose be hetero. I was born this way liking the ladies long before puberty made it a biological necessity. Homosexuality exists in numerous social species and in similar 10% proportions as in humans.

So, natural, non-harmful, and a great potential for life long love in a cold world full of hate, violence, and apathy is bad? That's one of the most screwed up nonsensical statements religious people make out of a really big list of rubbish.

[suchislife2]

I stepped in and raised the question that if being gay was such a horrible sin, then why did God make people that way?

I laughed so hard when I read that! Now I have a great line to use when my step dad and mum start in on me about things like this.

On topic: I agree with everything that has already been said! The principle should have his licience removed! Demoting will do nothing! He'll somehow work his way back to the top in the end through "good behavior" I'm sure.

This is the reason why there are probably so many suicides and homicides. Or whatever. Kids can't even trust those who are meant to be there to help them in times of need!

I can't cay much else. I'm lost for words.

[Rapscallion]

I keep reading the title and wondering why it was necessary to phrase it as a question. I regard it as a no-brainer.

I also note that there's nobody on the board arguing in favour of the principal in this case. Anyone?

Rapscallion

[smileyeagle1021]

I also note that there's nobody on the board arguing in favour of the principal in this case. Anyone?

Rapscallion

That entire city's only redeeming grace is when Gary Scott said "I guess I didn't realize we were this bad"... so maybe, just maybe, the people of that town will have to open their eyes and realize just how wrong their beliefs are... and if that does happen then the principles actions may, just may, be a good thing done for the wrong reason... that said, even if this does turn out to be a good thing, I can never forgive the principles motives...

and that post is probably the closest you will find to someone supporting the principle.

[Greenday]

I keep reading the title and wondering why it was necessary to phrase it as a question. I regard it as a no-brainer.

I also note that there's nobody on the board arguing in favour of the principal in this case. Anyone?

Rapscallion

Ok, I'll argue there was nothing wrong with the principal outing a gay student. There's obviously something mentally wrong with him and he can't be held responsible for what he did. So since he can't control his stupidity, he can't really be considered wrong.

Is that better?

[AFPheonix]

I wish we could blame that on mental unsoundness, but having grown up in a conservative Christian environment, these people are quite sane and do believe strongly that homosexuality is wrong.

However, as a figure of authority, the principal's action was unprofessional at best, unethical and mean spirited at worst. He should not be employed in a position of authority like a teacher or principal any longer.

[Sylvia727]

There's obviously something mentally wrong with him and he can't be held responsible for what he did.

If we classed every bully as insane, our hospitals would be a lot fuller and the streets would be a lot emptier. There's nothing "wrong" with him, just his own sadism and pathetic need for control. However; while the principal's actions were inexcusable, a large portion of the blame needs to fall on the school board, who are responsible for his behavior and yet have not corrected the problem. I find it intolerable that they've left a power-hungry bully in charge of young adults.

[Boozy]

I think Greenday's response was tongue-in-cheek. He'd probably agree with you.

[Greenday]

I think Greenday's response was tongue-in-cheek. He'd probably agree with you.

Spot on. In reality, the guy really is a douchebag.