Rape victim might go to jail for....

[siead_lietrathua]

i dont see how her chooseing to break a rule she knew was in place is victimizing her. consquences of an action you knew had consequences does not make the person being consquenced a victim of those concequences... man that's allot of that word.
KEEP IN MIND: i am NOT talking about the rape. i am talking about the charge of Contempt of Court only!
she was a victim of rape. yes. again, i have no place of patience for rapists. but the trial is still ongoing, they could still be slapped with the max sentance, none knows yet. heck, her outing their names and breaking that law while the case is still ongoing could get it chucked right out of court, wrecking her chance of justice.

[ngc_7331]

And she's aware of the consequences. She saying "bring it on" in a roundabout way to a court system who is more interested in protecting the criminals than the victims. But just because she acknowledges that she's doing what she was told not to do doesn't mean that she shouldn't fight it and expose how ass backwards the court system is. That would be letting herself be victimized, the not fighting it.

[siead_lietrathua]

and if her assailants get off with lesser sentancing because she outed them against the judge's order? how will that have done anything productive?

[Greenday]

and if her assailants get off with lesser sentancing because she outed them against the judge's order? how will that have done anything productive?

I don't see how outing them changes anything. They've already been found guilty of certain charges and innocent of others. The judge decides the sentence and already knows who they are. As far as the court case goes, nothing has changed.

[indigo]

Honestly the victim can be charged - but it'll be a PR nightmare for the judge and the attorneys. It's already turning into one right now. So I doubt that she will be held in contempt for what she's done.

Now personally I say kudos to her. She's standing up to her attackers and I consider what she did to be a public service announcement. Now other girls know what these boys are like and can protect themselves. I think the boys being outed is what they deserve.

[draco664]

I don't see how outing them changes anything. They've already been found guilty of certain charges and innocent of others. The judge decides the sentence and already knows who they are. As far as the court case goes, nothing has changed.

Technically, no, they haven't been *found* guilty. They've accepted a plea deal, in which they admit guilt and accept a sentence.

Pedantic? Moi?

[draco664]

Except that her lawyers are fighting it in court.

Yep. That's what lawyers do. They act in the best interests of their clients even when the clients themselves are not. For instance, Zimmerman is doing his level best to give his prosecutors as much ammunition as they need to nail his arse to the wall, but his lawyers will be doing damage control.

Actually if you re-read what he said, you will see that is exactly what he is saying.

No, he said (bolding mine)

the perps already plead out and are simply awaiting being charged.

I pointed out that they'd been charged and pleaded guilty. Thus, the slight confusion.

[bainsidhe]

Regarding the contempt of court proceedings, the girl's attorneys are fighting to make it open to the media, whereas the attacker's attorneys are trying to force it closed. Which is interesting because it's HER contempt of court hearing and she wants it open, claiming first amendment rights. Which honestly, I completely agree with.

As an aside, I wonder how much the community is supporting her versus her attackers and perhaps that's why the prosecution made a deal. I've read some pretty awful comments blaming her for her rape because she drank herself unconscious. If she hadn't been drinking, she wouldn't have been vulnerable, but such victim-blaming is disgusting and undeserved. This girl has a ton of courage to come forward and I'm glad her family is supporting her.

[gremcint]

ok she comitted the crime so she should have her day in court, but I think she should be found not guilty under freedom of protest. people have been known to be found not guilty for indecent exposure cases when flashing boobs by claiming it was a protest.

she comitted the act and should go through the system for it but she shouldn't be punished.

[siead_lietrathua]

and that's why there is a diffrence between being charged and being convicted. she will probably be let off, or let off lightly.

[Greenday]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1696303.html

Lawyers for the two boys dropped the motion to charge her with contempt of court. They say it's not because of public pressure but because now that their names are out there, making a bigger deal out of this won't change anything.

[Canarr]

My guess is they'll try to use it as ammunition for the boys' sentencing; try to make the argument before the judge that, since the victim already took it in her own hands to enforce a "public punishment", the actual sentence should be lighter, something like that. And besides, they were all compassionate and reasonable, didn't push to have the poor girl jailed for her breach of a court order, so shouldn't their clients be shown mercy by the court, etc...

[fireheart17]

I don't see how outing them changes anything. They've already been found guilty of certain charges and innocent of others. The judge decides the sentence and already knows who they are. As far as the court case goes, nothing has changed.

I don't know how true this is in the US, but at least in South Australia, while there are a great number of rape/sexual assault cases put forward, very few of them end up with a conviction.

I guess her logic was that if the justice system won't play fair, the public opinion system will!

[SkullKing]

I pointed out that they'd been charged and pleaded guilty. Thus, the slight confusion.

My mistake, sorry.

[draco664]

My mistake, sorry.

How dare you apologise for making a innocent mistake!!! This is the internet!!!!! We don't tolerate that sort of thing!!!ELEVENTY!!! Retract!!! Repent!!!

Sorry, I'll go and lie down for a bit...