Have to go to the bathroom? Not during God Bless America at Yankees' Stadium

[Shangri-laschild]

If it was the stadium rule, then it was the rule. Walking into a place where it's a rule that you stay in your seat during a certain time period means either you're agreeing to the rules or you're deciding that they don't apply to you. I get that their are emergencies but I don't know that I buy the "oh I was wronged" story. We've all heard the SCs tell about how they've been wronged when they were actually at fault.

As a child, I was taught that if I was about to enter a situation where I wouldn't be able to get to a restroom I either go before that situation or I hold it.

As far as the police officer not being able to kick someone out till stadium officials talked to the man first, I believe that if they were basically being employed by the stadium as security, then it would be just like a security guard telling you you had to leave.

[Slytovhand]

Ok - different slant, and playing devil's advocate to Shangrila...


Just because someone makes a rule, does that mean you have to follow it? Especially when we're talking about a public arena... ok, technically it's not a public arena, but that also becomes another debating point.

I'm probably thinking Microsoft's lawsuit that ruled against them because whatever it was, wasn't in the public's interest.

Just because someone says 'we have a rule here about XYZ', and that rule is unlawful, doesn't mean that the rule still applies because you 'agreed to it as part of the terms and conditions'.


Slyt

[Shangri-laschild]

Technically if you enter a place where you have to pay to be there and it's not a public place then if you're not following the rules, they are able to ask you to leave. If you talk on the phone in the theater, you can be asked to leave. I'm not sure how that rule is unlawful (though I could have missed something so let me know if I did).

[Mongo Skruddgemire]

Technically if you enter a place where you have to pay to be there and it's not a public place then if you're not following the rules, they are able to ask you to leave. If you talk on the phone in the theater, you can be asked to leave. I'm not sure how that rule is unlawful (though I could have missed something so let me know if I did).

But since it is a place where large numbers of people meet, they are required by law to have restrooms available for use. Many (if not most) areas even state that if something goes wrong with the bathrooms, a solution must be provided, usually in the form of Porta-potties.

So this isn't like the rule wherein of you're on the cell phone they can kick you out, this is a case of denying someone access or more to the point, punishing someone for using something that the stadium is required by law to have.

M

[Shangri-laschild]

But since it is a place where large numbers of people meet, they are required by law to have restrooms available for use.

This is true. Hadn't thought about that angle of it. I can see how because of that, the rule would be unlawful.

On the subject of the person who got kicked out, I still don't know that I fully believe the guy who got kicked out and am wondering how much of a scene he made before anyone even talked to him. Maybe he didn't but we don't know.

[Slytovhand]

On the subject of the person who got kicked out, I still don't know that I fully believe the guy who got kicked out and am wondering how much of a scene he made before anyone even talked to him. Maybe he didn't but we don't know.

Oh come on now.... what, you really want the truth????? Sheesh, what's the world coming to???

[EmiOfBrie]

The rules that were agreed to?

Was there something posted or in the souvenir program that stated that all patrons need to remain seated during the song? or was it one of those rules that most people aren't aware of until (a) they break it themselves or (2) the rule becomes sufficiently newsworthy?

If the latter, the patron had lack of knowledge as an excuse.

If the former, then IMHO it's a rule that deserves to be broken anyway. You can't FORCE patriotism! It's un-American!

[Xanthina]

Heeheehee.... Just another reason for me not to like the Yankee's

(Boston Native here)

[Pedersen]

Heeheehee.... Just another reason for me not to like the Yankee's

(Boston Native here)

Oh, hell, I'm not even a baseball fan of any kind, and I'd root for any team that's playing against the Yankees (including Satan's Baby Eaters). They're just that loathsome of an organization

[Princess-Snake]

Well then, I guess I know which stadium to avoid so that I don't accidently offend somebody when I get up to use the bathroom every hour. (Yes, I actually do have to use the bathroom every hour.)

[Difdi]

Actually, entrapment is defined as enticing and encouraging someone to break a law they would not otherwise have broken. A secondary portion of that definition includes the intent to arrest that person for breaking that law.

A good example would be a police officer dressed as a prostitute and begging people to give him/her money in exchange for sex, and refusing to give up when they say no, trying to force it to happen.

Agreed. For the ejection to be entrapment, the officer would have had to order him to stand up and walk around, and when he obeyed, arrest him for trespassing.

Though, it is worth noting that he's not trespassing until an employee of the stadium orders him out. An NYPD officer who is there under orders from NYPD, not the stadium, would lack the authority to eject him under trespassing laws. Once ordered off the premises by someone with that authority, he must comply or face trespassing charges -- BUT: he must also be allowed time to comply with the order! Lack of ability to teleport is not a crime!