Should Customers/Employees Clean Up Their Mess?

[purplecat41877]

If a customer/employee leaves a mess in the restroom should they be required to clean it up? I believe that since they made the mess, they should see what they can do about cleaning it up. Of course, that's not always possible especially if they've already left. If I make a mess, I clean it up and don't leave it for someone else to do.

[The Shadow]

Yes I think they should.

Practically speaking though, I don't think it would be enforceable without monitoring what people do in washrooms on CCTV, or having designated "bathroom monitors" to observe people's comings and goings. But such ideas probably wouldn't go over well for obvious privacy reasons.

But in theory, I like the idea. One thing I REALLY hate is those people who seem to think it's funny to not flush the toilet after use -- and the next person has to confront their shit (literally) Are these guys fucking twelve years old!? I would have my own twisted punishment for these offenders, but I'll spare you the details.

[purplecat41877]

One thing I REALLY hate is those people who seem to think it's funny to not flush the toilet after use.

I don't like that either. If I see something like that, I say "ew, gross" and flush the toilet. I say the same if there's a mess on the seat. If I can't clean it up for some reason, I move to the next stall that's clean.

[Sylvia727]

This is why I like restrooms that leave a toilet brush in each stall, behind the toilet tank. Discreet and convenient. If I have the tools, I can use them. Otherwise, what else can I do but walk away?

[Refkeila]

At my store's bathroom, we have plenty of toilet paper/paper towel on a shelf, a toilet brush on the left side of the toilet, a plunger on the right side... If *anyone* ever leaves a mess in there, they better be someone who physically cannot bend to pick stuff up.

[Slytovhand]

What??? This question is on Fratching??

It's even a question?????

Or a debatable point??????????


Damn right they clean it up!!!

[rdp78]

Well, if it's an employee they should know better and clean up after themselves. I think if you are old enough to have a job, you are old enough to clean up after yourself. I also think it would look bad for a company if a employee left a mess in the company's public restrooms. However, if it's something they can't deal with like a stopped up toilet then they should go to their supervisor to tell them what happened ASAP.

Now if a customer makes a mess, it's a different story, becuase sometimes they might not be capable of cleaning themselves or it needs more than paper towels or soap to clean it up. If they can't clean up a mess for what ever reason they should tell an employee about it and offer to help if they can. Now with a young child it's up for the parent/babysitter/older sibling/whoever they are with clean it up for them however, they might get the child to help them. Sometimes the child might be too embrass to say something and the parent thinks nothing is wrong.

[Flyndaran]

Who decides who are physically or even mentally capable of a somewhat complex act as sanitation?
I'ld imagine or at least hope that most restroom messes occur because of physical or mental handicaps. The rest being the afore mentioned people but homeless and thererfore more annoying than sympathetic.... (callous but oh so true with regards to normal citizen reactions.)

[rdp78]

Who decides who are physically or even mentally capable of a somewhat complex act as sanitation?

Well, I was referring to people who are in wheelchair and other people with physical disablities. Mentally well, I'm sure most mental disable folks can clean up after themselves or have someone with them who can make sure they do if they are severe. I am sure most people are able to clean up after themselves however, sometimes things do happen and they need more to clean up then whats in the restroom or something isn't working right.

It's also up to the employees to check on public restrooms and make sure that they are clean. I know at work we just started doing a chart to check on the bathrooms and well, it's pretty blank but hopefully everyone will make sure it isn't.

[Flyndaran]

Many people in wheelchairs try to do things they aren't capable of because of ego, or plain poverty. People incapable but trying to clean things up often make it worse.
My life mate once worked with elderly that created horrific messes because they didn't want to bother anyone. Of course, it turned small embarrassing messes into disasters.

I would seriously doubt that more than an incredibly tiny minority of "fecal bombs" etc. are purposefully done by competent adults.

As to workers not doing their jobs keeping places clean. They must first be told that there is a mess. No one's psychic.

[Slytovhand]

I would seriously doubt that more than an incredibly tiny minority of "fecal bombs" etc. are purposefully done by competent adults.

Not sure if by 'purposefully' you mean 'maliciously', but I'll go with that you weren't.

Having worked at a petrol station graveyard - apparently busiest in the country - and with a stack of people coming in from their night out on the town, I'll disagree with this statistic.

Also presuming, you don't consider drunk, stoned, off their nut, etc to be 'competent'.

[Flyndaran]

Not sure if by 'purposefully' you mean 'maliciously', but I'll go with that you weren't.

Having worked at a petrol station graveyard - apparently busiest in the country - and with a stack of people coming in from their night out on the town, I'll disagree with this statistic.

Also presuming, you don't consider drunk, stoned, off their nut, etc to be 'competent'.

Not competent no. That partially absolves them of their blame. Partially.
I meant purposefully, as in not an accident. Maliciousness comes from committing a purposeful and destructive act. It's a given that willful damage is bad.

[Peppergirl]

Coming into this late, but I think *at minimum* the offender should OFFER to clean up their mess.

I've never made a mess in a public restroom (thank god-lol), but every time I've ever spilled a drink, or been in a store where my kids threw up or whatever, I've ALWAYS cleaned up after myself (or them) or at the very least owned up to the mess and offered to clean it up.

I find it appalling, especially in this day and age of being so bodiliy-fluid conscious, the number of people who will slink away after leaving some sort of mess like that. I mean, we all know customers suck, but willfully leaving a mess that could conceivably cause another person to get ill? People who do that need the shit beat out of them. Seriously.

No pun intended.

[Evandril]

Meh, I know the other day, I dropped my drink while in a public restroom... I first found the mop (I've worked retail, so I had an idea where they'd hide it), cleaned up what I could, then told the store about it. *shrugs* Doing less than that, IMO, is showing no responsibility for your actions. Deliberatly making a mess? Ban 'em from the store, and press charges if possible, IMO