PETA: yet more insanity

[anriana]

Like... ?

Eyes. A central nervous system. A skeletal system. A digestive system. A reproductive system.

In any case, I find baby lambs cute; but I still eat them.

That's nice. Please stay away from my companions.

[DesignFox]

Their point is that people don't eat animals that cross a certain cute threshold, and that fish have many things in common with the cute animals.

Yea, except that they aren't cute. You can't cuddle a fish. So you eat it.*shrug* I see nothing wrong with this.

I happen to think horsies are cute- so I don't eat them. But some Europeans may disagree with me- I'm not gonna say they shouldn't eat horse meat.

One person's cuddly is another person's dinner.

And I bet if any of those PETA people were starving they'd eat a cat if it's all that was available. (luckily for most of us, not likely to happen- therefore, we can be picky about our food)

Well, damn, I mean that one woman isn't willing to die to save the little piggies that provide her with her insulin.

Frankly, as long as animals are not being subjected to more pain or suffering than they have to, I have no problem with them being processed as food or used in experimentation (medical- not cosmetic but that's a new argument).

Those people that choose not to eat meat or use animal products- more power to them. It is not a lifestyle I would choose, and I appreciate people (like those of you on this board) who do not force their agenda on others.

PETA is one whacked out organization. I don't like their tactics. I don't like their proposed legislation. I believe they bring about more harm than good, and to my mind, they hurt the cause of true animal activists.

[Lace Neil Singer]

Eyes. A central nervous system. A skeletal system. A digestive system. A reproductive system.



That's nice. Please stay away from my companions.

I really don't get the point you're trying to make. I eat animals, how does that harm you? It doesn't. Please quit with trying to force your opinions on me, cuz I will eat as many lambs, cows, pigs and chickens as I damn well please.

And you're seriously deluding yourself if you believe that a fish has the same nerves etc as a kitten. Go back to school and learn biology.

I happen to think horsies are cute- so I don't eat them. But some Europeans may disagree with me- I'm not gonna say they shouldn't eat horse meat.

Couldn't agree more with this statement. I love puppies; but to some people, puppy = dinner. I'm not about to go up to one of those people, claim all dogs as my personal friends, and demand they stop eating them. Vegetables and plants could feel pain, for all you know, then what would you eat?

[anriana]

I really don't get the point you're trying to make. I eat animals, how does that harm you? It doesn't. Please quit with trying to force your opinions on me, cuz I will eat as many lambs, cows, pigs and chickens as I damn well please.

You asked a question on a board intended for debating, I answered, and now I'm trying to force my opinions on you? If you find criticism of the killing and eating of animals so offensive, perhaps you shouldn't read threads labeled "PETA?"

And you're seriously deluding yourself if you believe that a fish has the same nerves etc as a kitten. Go back to school and learn biology.

Quote where I said that that fish and mammals have the same nerves. I said they both have a central nervous system, which is true. I did not say they have identical nervous systems. Go back to school and learn reading comprehension.

Vegetables and plants could feel pain, for all you know, then what would you eat?

And you're telling me to study biology?

[Dreamstalker]

Believe it or not I don't want PETA banned they're way too good at shooting themselves in the foot and then stuff said foot up their ass closely followed by their mouth. They're idiots and the sooner the great unwashed masses see this and stop supporting them the better.

True, they are good for a laugh aren't they? Although do we think the unwashed masses will abandon them en masse? They must have some diehard supporters out there otherwise they would have shriveled up and died awhile ago.

[IDrinkaRum]

If the popular Hollywood types didn't endorse them and show up in their ads, and help to smear those who are not PETA players, then I think the unwashed masses might start leaving PETA en masse. But that's just my humble opinion.

[anriana]

I happen to think horsies are cute- so I don't eat them. But some Europeans may disagree with me- I'm not gonna say they shouldn't eat horse meat.

And if you think it's wrong to kill and eat cute animals, then that makes sense, because cuteness is relative.

And I bet if any of those PETA people were starving they'd eat a cat if it's all that was available. (luckily for most of us, not likely to happen- therefore, we can be picky about our food)

If I was starving to death I'd eat a person and drink my own urine. That doesn't mean I endorse cannibalism.

Frankly, as long as animals are not being subjected to more pain or suffering than they have to, I have no problem with them being processed as food or used in experimentation (medical- not cosmetic but that's a new argument).

Then you have a lot of common ground with most activist veg*ns who are working to end the unnecessary cruelty of factory farm animal slaughter.

I'm assuming you only eat happy meat?

[Sylvia727]

When did cutesiness become a factor in rational decision making? Saying that fish are sea kittens is an appeal to emotion; I understand that. When did folk start entertaining that thought regardless of the logical implications? Individuals can follow any philosophy they wish, that's their right. I know a pesco-vegetarian-whatever who chooses, in her own words, not to eat any animal that has a face. Who am I to tell her that this is silly? Or that fish really do have faces, they're just alien faces to human biology? But don't try to claim that emotion should be considered as logic.

[Flyndaran]

They want to achieve a goal that runs counter to humanity's natural self-centeredness. Because it's impossible, only the loons try to promote it and they don't care how they attain it.

Also, does anyone really believe that emotion HASN'T convinced significantly more people than logic?
Logic only works on educated people that take time to interpret new ideas. It sucks for convincing average shmoes of long held dietary beliefs.

I see eating mammals as grotesque and wrong. But I'm sensible enough to know that the human race won't change no matter what I say or do... I just deal with the fact that I belong to a self-absorbed superstitious species.

[powerboy]

PETA, if they got their acts together, could be a wonderful thing. But they really need to realize what they are doing to help the animals. How is killing non suffering animals helping them?

[anriana]

They want to achieve a goal that runs counter to humanity's natural self-centeredness. Because it's impossible, only the loons try to promote it and they don't care how they attain it.

You think everyone who follows religion is a loon, right?

I know a pesco-vegetarian-whatever who chooses, in her own words, not to eat any animal that has a face. Who am I to tell her that this is silly? Or that fish really do have faces, they're just alien faces to human biology? But don't try to claim that emotion should be considered as logic.

You should tell her it's silly to call herself any sort of vegetarian while she still eats animals. I have a friend who is, technically, a pesco-fowl vegetarian, but he doesn't call himself that because it's silly.

[IDrinkaRum]

I eat animals. No matter what PETA does/says, I'm going to eat Chicken Little, the Cow who jumped over the moon, Wilbur, and Nemo. Though I'm not too into seafood. I do like shrimp and I love (canned) tuna. Other than that, I'm a poultry/pork/beef type of girl.

I make no bones about me liking meat. I have 2 cats that I rescued from shelters. I will not call fish "sea kittens". To me it's stupid and makes no sense.

PETA will have to convince the U.S. Government to make a law that bans the eating of all meat and everyone has to become a vegetarian before I stop eating it.

[Lace Neil Singer]

You forgot Foghorn Leghorn. XD And Donald Duck! And let's not forget Bambi's mum.

Ariana; I'm not debating with you cuz your "arguments" are emotion based and make no sense. I STARTED this thread; why wouldn't I debate the subject? Maybe you're the one who needs to leave it.

As for the rest of what you posted; I was being flippant, but I suggest you do some reading before you blindly bash the idea that plants can feel pain. It certainly has been the subject of numorous scientific studies.

http://www.department13designs.com/vegan.html

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_can_a_...nervous_system

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...=1006040518254

PETA will have to convince the U.S. Government to make a law that bans the eating of all meat and everyone has to become a vegetarian before I stop eating it.

Didn't work with alcohol; remember? There'll be meateasies springing up all over America. XD

[Dreamstalker]

If PETA wants to ban the eating of all meat, does that mean that the animals they "save" are supposed to eat only plants? Good luck enforcing that.

Dogs can handle "vegan" diets (I'm pretty sure...won't be happy, but they'll live). Cats cannot, they will die (I seem to recall a couple cases in the news involving vegans who tried to make their cat vegan as well, it did not end well for the poor cat).

[kiwi]

Peta to me is the angry extremeist religion zealot who is so caught up in their own self rightiousness that they forgot about the issues they are trying to fix

wspa however is the calm rational moderate who tries to fix the issues that cause the problem in the first place.
I have always been a fan of wspa, I have always loathed Peta

If eating meat was outlawed, I would still eat it. I will personally not allow a government become that much of a nanny state without rebelling.