Femi-nazi - derogatory or not?

[CancelMyService]

See I just assumed Rush came up with the term because he obviously feels threatened by any woman who doesn't agree her place is being barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen.

Don't forget this is also the same douchebag who routinely refers to the National Organization of Women as "NAGs" so he's got some issues with women.

[Xanthina]

I hate women like that. You can be PRO equal rights and still wear makeup and be pretty. You can still date boys. It is NOT succombing. It's not being weak. Just because you go out with your girls to the bar does not mean you have no self respect.

I am a homemaker and a submissive in a BDsm relationship. I have used the term Feminazi, when I've been repeatedly attacked by someone for my life choices. I am Pro equal rights. Just because I chose to be submissive doesn't mean I'm for all women being submissive. Actually, I think that my deciding to be a sub is exercising my equal rights... because I am CHOOSING to do so. But I think that most normal people understand that. It's only the extremes who think I'm doing something wrong.

[blas87]

If you and your husband both work together at making decisions in the house and with the family, then you really aren't submissive and I wish you wouldn't call yourself that

But thank you for understanding what I meant

[AFPheonix]

No, she's got the right term. It's not like a Christian wife submitting to her husband's will, because subs and doms are not gender-specific terms.

[Xanthina]

AFPheonix is right... the term comes from BDsm Bondage/Discipline Dominance/submissive sado/masochism Although I am a christian wife(lol) I don't use the christian tradition for the word. My husband and I are a team. But I also "submit" to him... mostly sexual, but sometimes in the mundain also. But even if I chose the traditional christian way of submitting, I still see myself as a feminist, because I think that each person should have the choice to do whatever, as they like.

[Shangri-laschild]

I don't really consider myself a feminist, either. It's hard to describe. I don't exactly believe men and women are equal. Some things, men are better at, and some things, women are better at. I suppose that, OVERALL, men and women end up being equal. But they aren't equal at everything across the board the way some people want to say they are. So I'm not sure where that places me, heh.

I feel basically the same way, and I guess I'd consider that to be in the realm of feminism still. I consider feminism and equal rights to mean everyone has the same oportunities. Females should have just as much chance as males to try out for stuff like being a firefighter. More men are going to be hired because of the advantage in upper body strength. That's fine. I see equal opertunity being different than the "you have to have an equal amount of male vs female or else it's bad!!!" mentality.

As far as the term, while I don't find it horrible I agree that maybe a better term could be coined. It is nice having a way to distinguish between the actuall feminists and the people at the edge.

While there may not be a huge amount of "keep them in cages for their sperm" minded people, there is the group in the middle who consider all guys to be idiots and completely believe the "all guys are dumb dirty grunting things that need us to take care of them and lead them by the hand" way of thought which, while not as bad as the extremes, isn't all that great either.

[Flyndaran]

... My husband and I are a team. But I also "submit" to him... mostly sexual, but sometimes in the mundain also. ...

There is never any submitting going on in my relationship, sexual or otherwise. We chose to do, think, or believe things by our own will.
Anyone that can't even imagine relationships without power struggles needs therapeutic help.

Men and women are equal. Trying to define equality by statistical averages is simply the first step toward bigotry.

Judge me only by those qualities I exhibit, not by what some population to which I belong shows on average.

[anriana]

There is never any submitting going on in my relationship, sexual or otherwise. We chose to do, think, or believe things by our own will.
Anyone that can't even imagine relationships without power struggles needs therapeutic help.

And anyone who makes assumptions about others' worldviews and disparages their sexuality without understanding it clearly needs immediate help with their manners.

PS Sadism/masochism were declassified as mental disorders almost 15 years ago. (and d/s was never classified as one)

[Boozy]

Mod note

Anyone that can't even imagine relationships without power struggles needs therapeutic help.

Telling another member that they need therapeutic help is bordering on a personal attack. Please limit your comments to the issues and not the person, please.

And anyone who makes assumptions about others' worldviews and disparages their sexuality without understanding it clearly needs immediate help with their manners.

We ask that members report posts that bother them instead of calling others out in the thread.

Play nice. I believe that we can discuss this issue rationally and without offending others.

[Sylvia727]

I read Flyndaran's comment as disparaging against the radical sexists, who assume that society should replace the patriarchy with a matriarchy. *shrug*

[Seshat]

I use that term for these women. However, I don't really consider myself a feminist, either. It's hard to describe. I don't exactly believe men and women are equal. Some things, men are better at, and some things, women are better at. I suppose that, OVERALL, men and women end up being equal. But they aren't equal at everything across the board the way some people want to say they are. So I'm not sure where that places me, heh.

I feel basically the same way, and I guess I'd consider that to be in the realm of feminism still. I consider feminism and equal rights to mean everyone has the same oportunities.

Feminism & other sorts of equal rights are about equality of opportunity, not forced equality.

Vonnegut wrote about forced equality in his short story Harrison Bergeron.

I'm after equal opportunity, not making people be equal, or making women be programmers or making men be nurses.

[CancelMyService]

Again I feel the need to point out the term "femi-nazi" was coined by a noted misogynist, using the time honored trick of taking a very small subset of a group and making them seem like the majority (see also: Islam).


The very fact that people are fighting about it here means, as the internet meme goes, you're falling for it.

[Boozy]

Again I feel the need to point out the term "femi-nazi" was coined by a noted misogynist, using the time honored trick of taking a very small subset of a group and making them seem like the majority (see also: Islam).

You always say what I meant to say, only more succinctly.

[Pedersen]

Again I feel the need to point out the term "femi-nazi" was coined by a noted misogynist, using the time honored trick of taking a very small subset of a group and making them seem like the majority (see also: Islam).

Ah, so the origin of the phrase matters as much as the meaning?

So, until the 80's, digital computer would have been bad, since it was coined by a homosexual (Alan Turing). Wonder what we would call them today?

No, I don't think the origin of the term matters. The meaning, though, does. And the word is a very helpful word to describe that specific subset. So, when descriing that group, I'll use that word.

[Flyndaran]

Telling another member that they need therapeutic help is bordering on a personal attack. ...
Play nice. I believe that we can discuss this issue rationally and without offending others.

Whoa, whoa, WHOA!
I meant my comment for those dictating all relationships as between controlled and controller. At no time did I intend an attack against any poster or reader.

Yikes. I know that my odd thought patterns can lead to radical misunderstandings, but this time I thought I had made my clear for once.