How far Zero Tolerance goes these days.

[anakhouri]

Children have to act out scenarios to make sense of the world. There are good guys and bad guys, and the bad guys must be defeated somehow. Children are still learning how to be diplomatic so of course most situations will be resolved by fighting.

My son doesn't have any toy guns (not by design, he's just never gotten any) but he uses swords, staffs, bombs, the crazy applesauce ray (whatever that is), magic, fireballs, and super powers. Even without guns, they'll find other ways to play-fight. I wouldn't be concerned unless the play-violence moves into real-life situations as well.

If my son was punished at sschool for pretending, I'd be livid.

[fireheart17]

IIRC, the issue with them being too realistic is people can't always tell if the gun someone is brandishing is a toy gun or a real one.

It also doesn't help when someone takes a toy gun and does a paint job on it. Even the Nerf guns. I was paranoid when I wanted to do mine because the paint job was going to result in a very realistic-looking steampunk Maverick. I didn't want to freak people out.

(and no, I have not done that paint job ).

My son doesn't have any toy guns (not by design, he's just never gotten any) but he uses swords, staffs, bombs, the crazy applesauce ray (whatever that is), magic, fireballs, and super powers. Even without guns, they'll find other ways to play-fight. I wouldn't be concerned unless the play-violence moves into real-life situations as well. If my son was punished at sschool for pretending, I'd be livid.

I suspect that some people may do so.

And what exactly IS the "crazy applesauce ray"? You mention it a few times saying that Khan has hit one of you with the ray

And as far as swords and staffs are concerned, it just means that you have a mini Thor or Viking on your hands, instead of a solider who uses guns to fight

[LexiaFira]

i think that (and this is my opinion)

after all thats going on with the taking the guns away crap and how teachers are treated, that now because guns are seen as an issue either "you cannot take mine away" or "omg a gun image or something that looks similar to it get rid of it" that the teachers and other people have had to react this way not because they want to but to cover their ass because now we should arm our teachers in the class room!

(I am in no way making light or making fun of the shootings in the classrooms, not the recent event, ALL OF THEM, all the way back to before columbine too)
now i am not standing up for these teachers, because some are incompetent. but i know a teacher in my town, sadly she has to keep an eye out for many things so as not to offend the parents. Every last ridiculous one, and this includes the issues in the original post.

So i am defending up for the teachers that know this is dumb and still have to do it. they are teachers not babysitters....but that is another issue.
sadly zero tolerance is just that, no toleration of it. it being the ACTUAL ITEM, not something that is a toy, or resembles one. and because no one has clarified this, or that it needs clarification, it comes to ridiculous issues and reactions such as this. as a society people are dumber...and those that are not are rare

[anakhouri]

And what exactly IS the "crazy applesauce ray"? You mention it a few times saying that Khan has hit one of you with the ray

You know, I still don't know how it works or even really what it does. All I know is that it fucks you up good. If you are in a fight, and your opponent whips out the crazy applesauce ray weapon, you are instantly defeated.

[Aethian]

You know, I still don't know how it works or even really what it does. All I know is that it fucks you up good. If you are in a fight, and your opponent whips out the crazy applesauce ray weapon, you are instantly defeated.

I always told my middle brother, when tried the ray on me, that my pear shield of defense stopped his ray. Our older brother did watermelon bombs...it got stopped when on picnic he really did dump watermelon all over him after the middle one dumped real applesauce on him...then the fight.

I took a nap.

[PepperElf]

The problem with schools, in my opinion, is that they took this to a new level of stupidity.

I can't say toy guns have never been confiscated before - the tiny gun that went to one of my Star Wars action figures was confiscated in private school. (yeah smaller than my thumbnail). BUT the teacher didn't freak out or demand counseling. She just politely explained it wasn't allowed and that I'd get it back at the end of the day.


These days kids get suspended for even having a doodle of a gun. Happened to one of the guys on another message board I go to. Oh and they banned his hunting club jacket too. And a warning on his report card for his "behavior" as well - one that never expires!

Last update, after he lawyered up the school caved on the suspension & report card.

Oh and there's this one too:
http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/region...picture-of-gun

Student suspended for having a photo of an weapon lying down on a flag. The school felt that it was a "threatening" image. *boggle*

Not sure how it's "threatening" anyone just lying there but, that's where the knee-jerk reactions always kick in…

[DGoddess]

I've said it before, and I'll say it again -- the truly scary part is that we're letting these people educate our kids. I am so glad that my son is no longer part of the school system, and I won't be making any more kids to put through it.

I'm equally glad I don't have any who have to put up with that level of BS.

We're in a screwed up world b/c these so called "educators" are too busy teaching our kids what to think instead of how to think for themselves.

[SongsOfDragons]

DANGER!! FLAPJACKS R DANGEROUS OK?! The only safe shape for a flapjack is now a SQUARE!!

A school in Essex has banned triangular flapjacks because they are pointy.

What.

The.

Fuck.

[fireheart17]

DANGER!! FLAPJACKS R DANGEROUS OK?! The only safe shape for a flapjack is now a SQUARE!!

A school in Essex has banned triangular flapjacks because they are pointy.

But squares have points too!!!!!111eleventy!!!!11!!!!!



Still, W.T.F.

[s_stabeler]

some dipshit was throwing them about.

[MadMike]

DANGER!! FLAPJACKS R DANGEROUS OK?! The only safe shape for a flapjack is now a SQUARE!!

And yet they won't ban the most dangerous thing of all -- idiotic school board members.

[HYHYBT]

Aren't they normally round? And, for that matter, *soft?*

[TheHuckster]

Aren't they normally round? And, for that matter, *soft?*

Remember, this is cafeteria food.

I've been to cafeterias that served scrambled eggs in cubes.

[s_stabeler]

yours actually stood still? (I am joking, but I have tasted food before that certainly tasted old enough. I ate exactly one bite.)

[Aethian]

Aren't they normally round? And, for that matter, *soft?*

Not if they were served at one camp I went to. Was there for two weeks, Mom had to buy me new jeans cause I hardly ate and most of my clothes were too big.