College degree and 1 - 2 years experience required

[Racket_Man]

for a cashier position at ............................................. a MdDonalds franchise


http://washingtonexaminer.com/mcdona...rticle/2526145

This for a job that barely pays above minimum wage, for the most part has NO benefits, NO insurance, boring, simple and repetative (each task takes no more than 3 - 5 seconds) and little job security. IN short the perfect McJob for all of those college grads---NOT.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McJob

Excuse me while my brain reboots itself from a sever BSOD.

[Kheldarson]

In short...a perfect job for somebody who just needs a job to handle all the bills.


The job market's still insane, and this just proves it.

[SongsOfDragons]

This is absolutely the norm for call centre and data entry jobs round here, and has been for the past two years at least. Degree and anything from two to five years' experience.

I'm also beginning to notice an upswing in unashamedly advertising zero-hour contracts, even if not by that name - you work when we want you to with no guaranteed hours per week, for minimum wage. They're calling it 'flexibility'.

[Teysa]

Heck when I put in an application for McDonalds a couple years ago, they wanted a reference from a college professor on the application. Never mind the fact that I hadn't stepped foot inside a classroom in several years at that point. I still had plenty of cashiering experience and other fast food experience but I was apparently not qualified enough. Not that I'm all that heartbroken mind you. I found something better for me not long afterwards.

[smileyeagle1021]

Racketman, you've just discovered what I've been railing about for several months now.

[RedRoseSpiral]

I've been railing against this for years. I spent two years without a job because of this bullshit. In Missouri at least, they're calming down and realizing they're not going to get people with that much experience for entry level jobs.

[Aethian]

I find it funny that fast food places want experience when last I knew that was how you used to get experience.

[Greenday]

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/business...ba-degree-not/

McDonald's is claiming that they weren't the ones to post the want ad.

[wolfie]

I've run into absolutely ridiculous "requirements" for job applicants. In a previous career, I was a programmer, and had worked with Windows NT since the first beta of 3.1 to be released outside Microsoft. At one career fair roughly 4 years after the release of that beta, one company was looking for people with 5 years of experience with NT 4.0 (at that time, the latest version of NT, which had been released about a year and a half before the career fair).

[MadMike]

I find it funny that fast food places want experience when last I knew that was how you used to get experience.

I dealt with the same thing when I was trying to get a programming job. Everywhere I interviewed, it was the same story. "We're looking for someone with experience." I kind of snapped after hearing that one too many times, and asked them, "How the hell am I supposed to get experience if I can't get hired?" I don't remember the answer they gave, but I'm sure it was pretty half-assed.

[HYHYBT]

I've run into absolutely ridiculous "requirements" for job applicants. In a previous career, I was a programmer, and had worked with Windows NT since the first beta of 3.1 to be released outside Microsoft. At one career fair roughly 4 years after the release of that beta, one company was looking for people with 5 years of experience with NT 4.0 (at that time, the latest version of NT, which had been released about a year and a half before the career fair).

I wonder... were yhey really that stupid, or did the wording come out wrong? Obviously, either they changed their minimum requirements or they didn't hire for another 3 1/2 years!

[wolfie]

I wonder... were yhey really that stupid, or did the wording come out wrong? Obviously, either they changed their minimum requirements or they didn't hire for another 3 1/2 years!

IIRC, it was included in a written description of the requirements for the position "5 years experience programming for Windows NT 4.0". Other than absolute stupidity, I can think of only 2 reasons (with one being VERY shady) they'd ask for that.

1) As a BS trap. Anyone making that claim would clearly be lying about their qualifications.

2) As a "beat down" tool. When the person they made the offer to (naturally) didn't have that much experience, they'd offer less money than they had been advertising the position for, on the grounds that the candidate didn't have as much experience as they wanted.

[s_stabeler]

could it be c) they were looking for someone with 5 years experiencetotal, of which at least some is with Windows NT 4.0? and a dumbass who wrote out the ads got confused?

[jackfaire]

could it be c) they were looking for someone with 5 years experiencetotal, of which at least some is with Windows NT 4.0? and a dumbass who wrote out the ads got confused?

Or D the person in HR who creates the job listings doesn't know anything about computers and their standard job description is "5 years with experience in (insert program/OS)" and not knowing that the OS in question had only been out a short time since that isn't their job to know, should be but isn't, they did the listing like they always do.

HR departments often understand a lot of Human Resource aspects of their jobs but they fail to gain any knowledge about what their company does in a way that actually helps them hire viable candidates for jobs which is why while they may screen applicants in the beginning often they will bring in a supervisor from the actual department to be part of final interviews to make sure they get someone that knows if the person is actually qualified.

This is why HR reps use key words to identify candidates instead of actually reading the resume because unless they actually know how to do the job they are hiring for then those keywords are all they have.