Boston Marathon Bombing

[Gravekeeper]

The Boston PD is saying they didn't rob a 7/11 now. They were just in the store WHEN it was robbed. Somehow that's almost kind of worse.

[Greenday]

Fox is claiming that they are Islamic terrorists and keeps mentioning Al Qaeda. Not sure how they make that connection with ZERO proof.

[Gravekeeper]

Fox is claiming that they are Islamic terrorists and keeps mentioning Al Qaeda. Not sure how they make that connection with ZERO proof.

Yeah I haven't heard the faintest thing about any kind of motive yet, never mind any evidence pointing towards one. They only just caught the second guy

[Kheldarson]

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013...olice-say?lite

Just adding a link for the news.

[Titi]

Remember the guy whose legs were blown off below the knee? He actually saw the guy put it down. He gave the description that led to pictures of the first bomber (the one who is dead). To not only survive his legs being blown off is awesome, to remember the details of the person he saw putting the bag down?

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertain...icle-1.1321648

[HYHYBT]

Make (an idea, situation, or problem) clear to someone by describing it in more detail or revealing relevant facts or ideas.

But that's what I mean. That's NOT the same thing as merely rewording the original statement. Explsining requires filling in the holes, so to speak. Depending on the situation, that might mean making explicit logical connections those you are speaking to don't see, no matter how obvious you may believe them to be, or it may mean addressing objections made in a more meaningful manner than just stating rhem to be false or irrelevant, or any number of other ways of making things clear. Mere repetition doesn't do anything. What I'd really like to know, far more than anything specific to this thread, is why so many people pretend that it does.

[Gravekeeper]

What I'd really like to know, far more than anything specific to this thread, is why so many people pretend that it does.

Don't know what to tell you, seeing as both my simple and elaborated explanations failed. They seem pretty clear when I read them. When you explain things several times and keep getting the same response no matter how times you address it, where do you go from there? All you can do is call an end to it before people start throwing things. ;p

[Duelist925]

Don't know what to tell you, seeing as both my simple and elaborated explanations failed. They seem pretty clear when I read them. When you explain things several times and keep getting the same response no matter how times you address it, where do you go from there? All you can do is call an end to it before people start throwing things. ;p

Dangit. And just as I was getting my "rotten fruit" stand set up. Damn you GK, ruining my business before it even gets off the ground!

[CaptainJaneway]

Remember the guy whose legs were blown off below the knee? He actually saw the guy put it down. He gave the description that led to pictures of the first bomber (the one who is dead). To not only survive his legs being blown off is awesome, to remember the details of the person he saw putting the bag down?

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertain...icle-1.1321648

Just to let you know about that gentlemen in the article. He works for Costco. I know my location and probably others are taking up a collection for him. They are trying to get the employees to donate vacation time to him too.

[Seifer]

http://abcnews.go.com/US/boston-bomb...6#.UXX9ScqbXhF

Am I the only one getting annoyed with the bombers' father continuing to show complete denial as to their guilt? I mean, I know accepting that your kids are murderous sociopaths can't be an easy task, but we have video of them putting down the bags and walking away. How much more proof does he need? At this point, even if his son confessed (which he basically did, since he told police that he learned how to make a bomb on the internet), the father would assume it was under duress.

Case in point:

The father warned, however, "If they killed him, then all hell would break loose."

"If they kill my second child, I will know that it is an inside job, a hit job. The police are to blame," the father told ABC News. "Someone, some organization is out to get them."

[TheHuckster]

http://abcnews.go.com/US/boston-bomb...6#.UXX9ScqbXhF

Am I the only one getting annoyed with the bombers' father continuing to show complete denial as to their guilt? I mean, I know accepting that your kids are murderous sociopaths can't be an easy task, but we have video of them putting down the bags and walking away. How much more proof does he need? At this point, even if his son confessed (which he basically did, since he told police that he learned how to make a bomb on the internet), the father would assume it was under duress.

I didn't find him annoying. Only reason being, I have heard his shrieking aunt who thinks there is a conspiracy involved and even throws the "I am a lawyer" card at the reporters.

[Greenday]

I didn't find him annoying. Only reason being, I have heard his shrieking aunt who thinks there is a conspiracy involved and even throws the "I am a lawyer" card at the reporters.

It's the same thing every time a murder happens. "There's no way my son/daughter would have done this! They are a good boy/girl!" Parents don't want to believe they raised psychotic killers.

[Panacea]

Am I the only one getting annoyed with the bombers' father continuing to show complete denial as to their guilt?

It's a defense mechanism, and perfectly understandable. The families of the bombers become victims as well; they have to deal with the reality that their loved ones did horrible things, hurt people terribly, and there is nothing the family can do to fix it . . . all the while still loving and caring for the perpetrator.

The conflict between denial and guilt is why the families, after the initial outburst of grief and denial, rarely speak to the public.

I sympathize with the family of the bombers. They are grieving too, and they did nothing wrong. But they will be treated as if they did.

[wolfie]

Fox is claiming that they are Islamic terrorists and keeps mentioning Al Qaeda. Not sure how they make that connection with ZERO proof.

I think I can follow the tenuous thread that Faux News used:

- The bad guys are from Chechyna
- Chechyna has a fairly high Moslem population
- Remember a few years back, the school in Russia that was taken over at gunpoint, and the siege ended when vapourized Fenantyl was introduced into the ventilation system (killing a number of hostages)? The bad guys there were Moslems from Chechyna.
- Since there have been Moslem terrorists from Chechyna, and these guys from Chechyna committed a terrorist act, they are Islamic terrorists.

[HYHYBT]

I read elsewhere today that thr mosque they attended has refused to host the funeral. Given the other unreliable reporting I'll take that with salt, but if true, calling them Muslim seems reasonable. Of course, even then it might well have nothing to do with their motivation.