Boston House searches

[wolfie]

"Alternate history" fan here, but I wonder what would happen if, instead of being found under a boat in someone's back yard, he had broken into an occupied home and been shot by the homeowner. How would it have affected the post-Sandy Hook "we've got to clamp down on private ownership of guns!" push to have a headline "most wanted man in America shot by armed citizen"?

[Gravekeeper]

How would it have affected the post-Sandy Hook "we've got to clamp down on private ownership of guns!" push to have a headline "most wanted man in America shot by armed citizen"?

Neither reason or logic can penetrate that particular echo chamber. NRA nutters would have twisted ANY scenario into a win for their side.

Breaks into home and gets shot:
See? We need more guns!

Breaks into home and takes family hostage:
See? If only they had a gun! We need more guns!

Breaks into home and gets subdued without the use of a firearm:
See? If only they had a gun! It would have been much easier!

Breaks into home and takes family hostage despite a firearm:
See? If only they had been allowed to have BIGGER guns!

[Mongo Skruddgemire]

Kind of funny apparently they are reporting that the nutjob was found OUTSIDE of the area they were searching and only after they lifted the shelter in place. Which allowed the guy who owned the boat to go outside notice the blood and call the police who got the suspect.

And...the police were to know this...how? By the logic in the statements above, they are condemning the police for having to do a search instead of divining the location of the suspect through some esoteric method. To use one of George Carlin's lines "by squeezing the goat's testicles" perhaps?

If they *could* divine the location of the suspect then a search would have been unneeded. But then again if the police could do that then there would be no need for detectives or any of that investigation crap. We could just fondle Billy's nutsack, get a warrant, and go straight to the hideout and nab them.

Hiding inside and waiting for police to violate your home looking for a guy wastes alot more time then just looking around to see if anything is out of place which is how he was caught.

If someone detonated a couple of bombs in my area and was on the loose that means that there is at least one person in the area that doesn't give a flying shit about human life. By me blundering around looking for him/her/it, I'm risking getting hurt, captured and used as a hostage and/or being killed.

I'm not a trained law-enforcement officer. That's what my taxes pay for and that's what I vote in sheriffs in for. To let trained people protect and serve my community.

Yes the guy that found the suspect was lucky that the idiot was badly injured, but it could have gone a completely different way.

Personally I'll stay inside, lock the doors, load the shotgun and let the police do their job. And if they want to come in and do a quick search...I'll let them. I'd rather them clear my house and move on looking for the suspect. Once they know he's not in my house...they'll move on.

[lordlundar]

"Alternate history" fan here, but I wonder what would happen if, instead of being found under a boat in someone's back yard, he had broken into an occupied home and been shot by the homeowner. How would it have affected the post-Sandy Hook "we've got to clamp down on private ownership of guns!" push to have a headline "most wanted man in America shot by armed citizen"?

Not everything needs to be a gun control thread.

[Panacea]

The FBI suspected it, but couldn't really do anything about it, because you can't arrest someone on the grounds of "The Russian Government said so." '

Exactly. In this country, you need a little something called "evidence." The Russians didn't provide any, and the guy knew enough to shut up about his radical beliefs when the FBI came calling.

He was supposed to be on a Russian flight list, but they misspelled his name.

"Alternate history" fan here, but I wonder what would happen if, instead of being found under a boat in someone's back yard, he had broken into an occupied home and been shot by the homeowner. How would it have affected the post-Sandy Hook "we've got to clamp down on private ownership of guns!" push to have a headline "most wanted man in America shot by armed citizen"?

Let's not go there, please.