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    Because her abuser showed up at her work, and basically though she has RO's they can't guarantee he won't come back. So it's to "protect the children." I say it's hard enough to get your life together when you leave an abusive situation loosing your job because of your abuser is just wrong!

    http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/loca...211244611.html

  • #2
    First thought: it sounds like the least worst on a list of bad options.
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    • #3
      It's definitely a rock and hard place issue.

      On the one hand, she shouldn't be punished because her ex won't obey the law.

      On the other, who's to say he wouldn't hurt a child (like his own) or her in front of other students? They shouldn't be subjected to it either.

      I'm wondering if they could reach a compromise and get her out of the region without her ex knowing.
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      • #4
        First: remind me never to click another NBC San Diego link ever again. Seriously. [expletive deleted] auto-play, non-pausable, non-muteable video ads.

        Anyway, the school really had no choice. Once the ex moved it to that point, they had to put the safety of the children above that of even an excellent employee.

        It's a shitty situation for everybody involved, but I can't really see that the school had any other real choice.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Andara Bledin View Post
          It's a shitty situation for everybody involved, but I can't really see that the school had any other real choice.
          Put her on paid administrative leave?

          Find her another job in a different city? Pay for her relocation costs?

          Would probably be cheaper than the inevitable lawsuit...
          Last edited by draco664; 06-13-2013, 11:31 AM.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by draco664 View Post
            Put her on paid administrative leave?

            Find her another job in a different city? Pay for her relocation costs?

            Would probably be cheaper than the inevitable lawsuit...
            Paid leave for how long? Her ex is out in June and may come back next school year. Over and over and over...so how long do you keep a non-teacher on payroll?

            The other two I'd agree with, but with the caveat I mentioned earlier: that they can do it without her husband knowing and/or being able to find out. Witness protection if you will.

            Otherwise, you'll just get a repeat problem, and that won't help the Diocese or the victim either.
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            • #7
              I'd agree helping her find a job and relocate would be a solid. But you would be in danger of foisting your problem to another school.

              If the husband is that level of out of control, perhaps she could coordinate with a domestic abuse support group and the school and figure out the best way to get off this guy's radar with a new job?

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              • #8
                She was on leave for three months before they actually fired her. It is not really their job or responsibility to take care of her. Their responsibility is towards the children in their care, and if they kept her in their employ, no matter which school she might end up working at, her presence would pose a risk to them.

                It's not her fault, but she is the focal point.
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                • #9
                  Responsibility? No. But it's a solid when you're forced to fire someone for reasons completely beyond their control.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by D_Yeti_Esquire View Post
                    Responsibility? No. But it's a solid when you're forced to fire someone for reasons completely beyond their control.
                    I have to ask just what, precisely, is a school supposed to do when one of its employees is involved in a situation that poses a threat to their students?

                    Relocating her won't solve the problem, just change the venue and maybe delay it.

                    It's unrealistic, and bluntly, it's entitled, to expect them to pay her way for something they have less control over than she does.

                    It really sucks, and I do feel for her and her kids, but that's no excuse to bring drama down on the school for only doing what should be expected of them.
                    Faith is about what you do. It's about aspiring to be better and nobler and kinder than you are. It's about making sacrifices for the good of others. - Dresden

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by HYHYBT View Post
                      First thought: it sounds like the least worst on a list of bad options.
                      ^ That.

                      The real question here is if this guy is violent and dangerous with such a real risk of reoffence why is he being allowed out to begin with? And if he is being allowed out, why isn't he living with an ankle bracelet?

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                      • #12
                        The problem with both of those options is that you cannot keep him in jail indefinitely... He will be let out eventually, and probably before his full sentence, and an ankle bracelet won't do a damned thing to stop him from hurting people, only tell you where he was when the hurting happened.
                        Faith is about what you do. It's about aspiring to be better and nobler and kinder than you are. It's about making sacrifices for the good of others. - Dresden

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Andara Bledin View Post
                          The problem with both of those options is that you cannot keep him in jail indefinitely... He will be let out eventually, and probably before his full sentence, and an ankle bracelet won't do a damned thing to stop him from hurting people, only tell you where he was when the hurting happened.
                          But it would theorhetically tell you when he's heading in her direction. As long as she lives far enough away that he can't cover the distance inbetween its check in intervals the cops would know where he's likely going and react accordingly.

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                          • #14
                            I notice most of the people saying "the school had to fire her, for the saftey of the children" are the same ones that can't figure out why women stay in abusive relationships

                            She's a teacher, more than likely her degree is now 100% useless, she's now been deemed "unemployable" for being a victim of domestic violence. You think they'd expel a student if the situation were similar? Or would the student be given counseling and protection. Nice how the school can see the future and know he'll come back only if she's working there, if he isn't notified(which why would he be), he'll still come back, and they'll have no warning.

                            As far as "why doesn't she just pack up and leave", if there's currently a divorce pending she could end up in jail for leaving the jurisdiction. Courts don't see domestic violence against the spouse as a reason to deny visitation.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by BlaqueKatt View Post
                              I notice most of the people saying "the school had to fire her, for the saftey of the children" are the same ones that can't figure out why women stay in abusive relationships
                              So, are you trying to offend everyone in the thread or did you just accidentally insult us all?



                              Originally posted by BlaqueKatt View Post
                              She's a teacher, more than likely her degree is now 100% useless, she's now been deemed "unemployable" for being a victim of domestic violence.
                              No one's saying the situation doesn't fucking suck. There just doesn't seem to be an easy solution to it.


                              Originally posted by BlaqueKatt View Post
                              You think they'd expel a student if the situation were similar?
                              Her students are 6-7 years old. Its pretty unlikely they have someone in prison with a grudge against them. =p


                              Originally posted by BlaqueKatt View Post
                              Nice how the school can see the future and know he'll come back only if she's working there, if he isn't notified(which why would he be), he'll still come back, and they'll have no warning.
                              The school doesn't need to "see the future", only decide there's a unacceptable chance of it happening.


                              Originally posted by BlaqueKatt View Post
                              As far as "why doesn't she just pack up and leave", if there's currently a divorce pending she could end up in jail for leaving the jurisdiction. Courts don't see domestic violence against the spouse as a reason to deny visitation.
                              Nothing but straw.

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