Send in the SWAT team ... for a fawn

[Pixilated]

Okay, it wasn't actually a SWAT team, but does anybody else think this response to a call about a fawn at a no-kill shelter was way the hell and gone overblown??

[Rageaholic]

*facepalm*

That's all I have to say.

[Duelist925]

I...have seen my share of stupid, overblown overreactions.

I have seen and read so many, simply for the facepalming amusement.

This..this outdoes them all. Even the fictional ones. This is so stupid, if I read about it in a book I'd roll my eyes at the hackery of the writer.

This is. Wow.

[Racket_Man]

As a residense of the state in which this happened----

I am truly sorry

I give up.

[draco664]

I think I might just bookmark this so that the next time someone tries to tell me that the police need more moneyI can bitchslap them with ample evidence they're overfunded.

[Salted Grump]

I think I might just bookmark this so that the next time someone tries to tell me that the police need more moneyI can bitchslap them with ample evidence they're overfunded.

Now, don't blame the police. Much. Blame the guys that did everything STUPID. So, the DNR and the Sherrif's Department of that one County.

Christ on a crutch, I cannot believe just how fucking retarded this entire debacle is. I am getting some perverse glee over seeing the WDNR getting raked over the coals on FB, however.

[Greenday]

Sounds almost too ridiculous to be true, but I can't find any conflicting stories. For instance, every single website that has this story has the exact same quote in it, "armed to the teeth". What the hell does this mean? Did they come in with rifles that had grenade launcher attachments, grenades, flashbangs, etc? That'd be armed to the teeth as far as I'm concerned. All I've heard so far is that they tranquilized the deer (Which if that's all they are taking about, it's being seriously overblown).

It sounds excessive, but it was just a few cops with some Natural Resources staff. Cops keep the peace while the staff from Natural Resources look for and handle the deer. How big was the place? Who's to say that the staff there wouldn't have reacted violently if it was just one cop and one person from Natural Resources?

This story has set off my bullshit alarms, but I just can't find anything to prove it. Story might be too new for anything else to have come out.

[Aethian]

All I've heard so far is that they tranquilized the deer (Which if that's all they are taking about, it's being seriously overblown).

It sounds excessive, but it was just a few cops with some Natural Resources staff. Cops keep the peace while the staff from Natural Resources look for and handle the deer. How big was the place? Who's to say that the staff there wouldn't have reacted violently if it was just one cop and one person from Natural Resources?

They didn't just tranq the fawn, female by the picture, she was stuffed into a body bag and then killed.

Their are pictures of Giggles staying nicely in a barn stall, they were most likely waiting till she was old enough to survive on her own. A lot of fawns her size won't make if without Mom.

If this fawn would have been in Michigan she would have been coerced into a crate and taken to one of the various nature preserves. Heck she might have been looked at by a vet too and then placed into one if the zoo's.

What the DNR did in this situation was beyond the scope if wrong.

[s_stabeler]

Greenday, there are several things they did wrong even IF the deer had to be put down. ( and I'll come to that point later) 1. they corralled the staff. um, not menaing to be rude, but that's not entirely nessecary. corral the staff wherever the deer IS ( and they knew where the deer was) and prevent anybody from entering the room. ( I DO know why they did it ( making sure none of the staff attacked them from behind, I juts think it was unnecessary to corral all the staff at the shelter)
2. they searched the residential quarters. why? ( and that might be an illegal search, since the warrant specified the barn) it looks too muhc like thye were fishing for reason to arrest the staff over a relatively minor issue.
3. why stuff the fawn into a bodybag? pre- excecution, I mean.

another point. why would the animal need to be put down? The reason you can't keep deer is the risk of a specific disease IIRC, so why not tell the shelter to isolate the deer & release the deer ASAP. it deals with the threat of the deer, while not killing an innocent baby animal. For that matter, I do feel sorry for any wild animal in Wisconsin, since apparently there is no use helping it f it gets into trouble, since it will only get put down. ( there ARE dedicated wildlife shelters, you know, that can deal with the tiny risk of diseases spreading to those that handle animals)

also, it seems like this is due to a vendetta against the shelter owner by local authorities. if this is true, then that is extremely childish.

[Greenday]

3. why stuff the fawn into a bodybag? pre- excecution, I mean.

Well, they could have just dragged the deer out, but I think that'd be more traumatic seeing a limp deer being just dragged on the ground than just carrying it out in a bag that no one could see it in.

I don't actually understand why it was necessary to kill it. Seems like a waste of time and doesn't make the world a better place by any means.

[crashhelmet]

Well, they could have just dragged the deer out, but I think that'd be more traumatic seeing a limp deer being just dragged on the ground than just carrying it out in a bag that no one could see it in.

I don't actually understand why it was necessary to kill it. Seems like a waste of time and doesn't make the world a better place by any means.

They were "Hunting"

[s_stabeler]

Well, they could have just dragged the deer out, but I think that'd be more traumatic seeing a limp deer being just dragged on the ground than just carrying it out in a bag that no one could see it in.

I don't actually understand why it was necessary to kill it. Seems like a waste of time and doesn't make the world a better place by any means.

I meant before they killed the deer. ( the process was grab the deer- stuff it in body bag- kill it) if they killed the deer, THEN put it in the body bag, I'd agree with you.

I agree that killing the deer was unnessecary.

[Greenday]

I meant before they killed the deer. ( the process was grab the deer- stuff it in body bag- kill it) if they killed the deer, THEN put it in the body bag, I'd agree with you.

I agree that killing the deer was unnessecary.

Which would be more traumatic: seeing a body bag being carried out or watching the limp, tranquilized deer being carried out? I'd guess the latter.

[s_stabeler]

honestly, at a shelter, when they've likely seen tranqulized animals before? probably seeing the deer get shot. Especially since at first, they thought the deer was going to be taken to a wildlife shelter. Tranquilize the deer, take it offsite, THEN kill it, so that the shelter (which, as a no-kill shelter, probably is staffed by people that have a problem with killing animals)

But again, why kill the deer? The deer was going to be transferred the next day to a wildlife shelter in Illinois anyway. ( and the argument used that you don't phone someone up that you are going to bust for drugs to ask them to voluntarily surrender the drugs is bullshit. That is done to preserve evidence. You can prove the presence of the deer even if the deer had already been sent to the Illinois shelter. Plus, I thought you couldn't dispose of seized property until actual forfeiture. The shelter had no opportunity to challenge the seizure, which is extremely odd.)

[Andara Bledin]

Having been part of a group that was actually subjected to a federal raiding party, the entire thing is traumatic in and of itself. And that's before you get to the whole corralling every employee into one place and forcing them to stand, not talk to each other, not call anyone, and just wait while the entire premises are searched. And that was in the case of a legal search for an incident that had the potential for people to die as a result of the alleged actions.

And, yet, the feds in our situation apparently were less dickish than what it's reported that the DNR did. Nine DNR agents and four sheriffs? Is there no real crime in that area? Shit, for a company of 35 people, the Feds only brought in 7 men, and 5 of those were whoever was on hand and bored at the local office to support the 2 who flew in from DC.