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  • #31
    Originally posted by Jester View Post
    Generally speaking, no matter who you vote for or who wins, the winner is still likely to be a total knobshank.
    Which will be true even if Hilary wins in 2016

    (NB: I'll actually vote for her. But the fact she is such a raging bitch is part of why I think she's right for the job and why I said what I said).
    Good news! Your insurance company says they'll cover you. Unfortunately, they also say it will be with dirt.

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    • #32
      Frankly, i think parents should be restricted in their choices for children names in the same way they should be restricted in other areas that have more or less permanent consequences for their children (e.g. tattoos). I think it would be a good thing if judges prevent stupid or "funny" names.

      Of course, coming from a country where names are almost exclusively based on names from mytholoy and history (roman, celtic, germanic, christian, norse/pagan, jewish, etc.), even very usual american naming practices (using common nouns as first names) already seem very bizarre to me.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Kelmon View Post
        Frankly, i think parents should be restricted in their choices for children names in the same way they should be restricted in other areas that have more or less permanent consequences for their children (e.g. tattoos). I think it would be a good thing if judges prevent stupid or "funny" names.
        Other countries do this already. I think Sweden does, and Iceland especially has strict nomenclatures.

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        • #34
          Germany has similar restrictions to sweden - basically any name can be rejected that would be "harmful" to a child, it has to be something "name-like", and the gender has to fit.

          It's up to a civil servant to determine this, and if parents want to fight his or her decision, a judge has the ultimate say.

          While looking over the wikipedia entry for swedish naming laws, i also found something mirroring the rejection that is discussed here:
          In 2009, the Swedish Tax Authority refused to allow a couple to name their son "Allah". The basis of the decision was that the name could be seen as objectionable for religious reasons, and that some people may take offense at such a name.
          Nice to see that religious names are not neccessarily rejected because they might be offensive to the people involved in the case.

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          • #35
            I think Korea has a list too, or the name has to come in Hanja form (if I spelt it right, its more Chinese loan word-esque) so although spelt in Hangeul, the form that has it's meaning, like "Blessed one" has to come from their other script.

            Having a list sounds draconian etc, but as long as the list is quite extensive there is no real harm, I have no idea how well "Moon Unit" fared growing up and if he ever went by another name at school, but honestly, wouldn't you take the piss even if his dad was Frank Zappa?

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Ginger Tea View Post
              I have no idea how well "Moon Unit" fared growing up and if he ever went by another name at school, but honestly, wouldn't you take the piss even if his dad was Frank Zappa?
              Moon Unit is actually Frank's daughter.

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              • #37
                Well it's not as if it screams gender at you now is it

                I just know of the man (frank) and the name, play me a song of his mixed in with others from the same year and I might not even notice it, unless it's totally off the wall.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Jester View Post
                  Moon Unit is actually Frank's daughter.
                  Zappa's son arguably has a worse name - Dweezil. At the time when Zappa was creating his offspring, space exploration was very much in the public eye, so a dude named Moon Unit had the potential to be cool, if he played it off right. But nope, Frank liked his oddness, so his daughter was Moon Unit, and his son was Dweezil. I'm not even sure if "Dweezil" has any meaning...

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                  • #39
                    Japan, Denmark, China, Italy, Germany, Hungary, Iceland, Sweden, New Zealand, Portugal and Malaysian all have some form of guidelines, strict naming conventions or a pre-approved list of names you pick from.

                    While some other countries have ultimate approval power, but less strict guidelines. Where they can step in and stop you from naming your child like a dipshit for example.

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                    • #40
                      It's all well and good naming your child in protest, but you are not the one going to get stick in school about it.
                      Scrabble would be a nasty session, tip out the bag and exclaim that you have spelt your name etc.

                      Metalica also in the link was accepted as a middle name, but in Toronto rejected as a first, I am not sure if the rules are as strict for middle names, but if you want a bat shit crazy name for your child, give them it as a middle.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Jester View Post
                        Moon Unit is actually Frank's daughter.
                        In an interview, one of his kids (Dweezil, I think) mentioned that he never got any flack for having a weird name. All of the crap he had to deal with growing up was all related to his last name. Nobody cared that he had a weird name; they just cared that he was Frank Zappa's kid.

                        Poor Ahmet and Diva get no love when mentioning his kids, though.

                        LA Times article about his kids' names

                        I really, really don't care for a system where you get to pick from a list and that's it. I'd rather allow for a kid to be named "Brfxxccxxmnpcccclllmmnprxvclmnckssqlbb11116" (which was done as a protest of the naming laws) than stifle that expression entirely.

                        You can always just shrug and explain that your parents are crazy and then change it when you're legally of age. You know, provided your country's legislature aren't dicks about that, too.
                        Faith is about what you do. It's about aspiring to be better and nobler and kinder than you are. It's about making sacrifices for the good of others. - Dresden

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                        • #42
                          A pre-approved list is definately going to far. But by the same measure there should be a mechanism by which some semblance of common sense can be invoked. So some dipshit doesn't name his children Adolf Hitler and Aryan Nation <cough>.

                          On that topic, that dipshit is getting married again and has knocked up another woman. This time he wants to name the kid Eva Braun or Rommel. Despite having 8 children already ( all of which have been removed from his custody ) by four different women.

                          They have a lovely engagement photo.

                          <twitch>

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                          • #43
                            Hey, at least they're wearing their dipshittery on their sleeves for all to see.

                            I feel sorry for all of the kids, though. It must suck to find out your birth parent is that guy.
                            Faith is about what you do. It's about aspiring to be better and nobler and kinder than you are. It's about making sacrifices for the good of others. - Dresden

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Andara Bledin View Post
                              "Brfxxccxxmnpcccclllmmnprxvclmnckssqlbb11116"
                              Oh, I know that one! I think it's pronounced Throatwarbler Mangrove!

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Ginger Tea View Post
                                Scrabble would be a nasty session, tip out the bag and exclaim that you have spelt your name etc.
                                I have a friend, who has a friend who supposedly was named in exactly that way. Her name is Venita.
                                I'm liberal on some issues and conservative on others. For example, I would not burn a flag, but neither would I put one out. -Garry Shandling

                                You can't believe in something you don't. -Ricky Gervais

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