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  • #76
    Gang members are not stupid. They're a lot of things, but stupid isn't one of them. Ignorant, violent, for many even "Not intelligent." Plenty wrong with them. But if they want to convey "I am in (this gang)" then they will do that. Ban one thing, they'll find another one. The only way you can ban everything that might be gang related, is if you have a dress code as strict as the US Army. Take away the hat, there's something else. Something else after that. And something else after that.

    Edit: And pink on guys is gang related? Yeah, there is a gang like that. But if someone said "Quick, come up with a gang related color" I'd jump to either red or blue. Convenient, isn't it, how the gang-related things that we ban are all unusual anyway?
    "Nam castum esse decet pium poetam
    ipsum, versiculos nihil necessest"

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    • #77
      Funny enough, we don't have many gang related crimes here. It just doesn't happen too often. And I live close enough to the ghetto that I can taste it.

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      • #78
        So... still not even an attempt to draw even a plausible connection between "this person has unusual hair" and "this person disrespects himself?"
        "My in-laws are country people and at night you can hear their distinctive howl."

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        • #79
          Originally posted by Jester View Post
          I love how so many of these school systems that are all up in arms with these dress codes that cut down in certain hairdos and clothing that are "potentially disruptive" are often the same school systems that take little to no action against bullies. Because clearly bullies have never been disruptive to anyone's ability to learn.
          To paraphrase a joke by Jimmy Carr (Skip to 3:42)
          There are two ways to stop bullying. You can stop the bullies, which has been tried. Or you can stop the students who are being bullied from being so different. And that requires bullying

          I've seen a lot of shows or movies where someone is encouraged to pick on a kid, because the kid wasn't conforming well enough. I have to imagine that that concept doesn't come out of thin air and perhaps that is why certain schools turn a blind eye?

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          • #80
            Originally posted by HYHYBT View Post
            So... still not even an attempt to draw even a plausible connection between "this person has unusual hair" and "this person disrespects himself?"
            I think its just an old school mind frame. I am shocked to hear it from here.

            I think the opposite. I think I have respect for myself not to conform to society's standards on style.

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            • #81
              Originally posted by HYHYBT View Post
              So... still not even an attempt to draw even a plausible connection between "this person has unusual hair" and "this person disrespects himself?"
              Of course not. Because any argument that could be made for that line of thinking would be so convoluted or nonsensical that it would fall over on to it's face from the sheer weight of its own absurdity.i

              Originally posted by hinakiba777 View Post
              I've seen a lot of shows or movies where someone is encouraged to pick on a kid, because the kid wasn't conforming well enough. I have to imagine that that concept doesn't come out of thin air and perhaps that is why certain schools turn a blind eye?
              The concept clearly doesn't come out of thin air. Such things happen all the time, and have been happening for decades, if not longer. And many schools turn a blind eye towards bullying because to actually address it would be far more difficult than ignoring it or dismissing it as "kids will be kids."

              Originally posted by bex1218 View Post
              I think its just an old school mind frame. I am shocked to hear it from here.

              I think the opposite. I think I have respect for myself not to conform to society's standards on style.
              Of course it's an old school way of thinking. And it generally doesn't work that well. But if there's one thing this country does really well, it's ignoring the fact that a certain way of addressing things doesn't work or isn't effective, and continuing to do it the same way over and over again,

              As to your last point.....absofuckinglutely.

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              • #82
                I leave my hair in its natural colour and texture and I keep it long, traditionally a style for my gender. Does that mean I'm disrespecting myself for conforming to the norm at will?

                sadface.

                The hell does the phrase mean anyway? Unless one has medical issues that affect their self-esteem really badly who doesn't resepct themselves just a little bit? Methinks the old fuddyduddies are at it again and they all failed English!! >.<

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                • #83
                  Actually, Songs, it's a sad but true fact that there are many people who don't respect themselves. But that sad fact of life has absolutely NOTHING to do with the argument that's been put forth here against certain clothes and hairdos.

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                  • #84
                    to some, conforming to standards is fine. I just feel that I am disrespecting who I am by conforming.


                    Hope that clears that up a bit.

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by SongsOfDragons View Post
                      I leave my hair in its natural colour and texture and I keep it long, traditionally a style for my gender. Does that mean I'm disrespecting myself for conforming to the norm at will?
                      Do you keep your hair long and it's natural shade because you don't want to be seen as 'not normal' or do you do that because that's how you like to keep your hair?

                      I'm of the opinion that repressing your own wishes just to "keep the peace" when there's no reason what you want to do should actually break the peace is failing to respect yourself. If you love your hair the way it is, the fact that it's considered the norm by prevailing social standards is utterly irrelevant.
                      Faith is about what you do. It's about aspiring to be better and nobler and kinder than you are. It's about making sacrifices for the good of others. - Dresden

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                      • #86
                        That's okay then ^^ I love my natural hair. I was actually a bit worried there. I blame my job melting my brain with one of the most god-awful Tetris effects ever!

                        Back to your regularly scheduled argument!

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                        • #87
                          I am still waiting for why shaved heads should not be allowed. Of all the things on the list, shaved heads would be the least of anyone's worries.

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                          • #88
                            Skinheads/Neo-Nazis are associated with too short hair.

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                            • #89
                              so are military personnel.


                              otherwise its just a haircut.

                              Other than the nazi argument. any other reasons why shaved heads should not be allowed?
                              Last edited by bex1218; 09-16-2013, 10:22 PM.

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                              • #90
                                Her dreadlocks were not allowed but this teacher is allowed to have twists?

                                http://www.dbcschool.org/index.php?page=tyrone_cook

                                How is that not "faddish"?

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