3-year-old Hitler can't get name on cake

[Lace Neil Singer]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28269290/

Sorry if I appear to be a horrible cynic, but I smell attention seeker with this kid's parents. Why else would parents call their kids such names? In any case, he could easily have asked for the cake to have "Happy Birthday Adolf" only on it, and inscribe it with balloons.

[AFPheonix]

That's just it. How many people do you know, especially children, who get their full names on birthday cakes? It was done just to see how many buttons the parents could push.
The parents are moronic to start, and now that they've drawn even more attention to themselves I really hope they start getting some serious negative attention pointed their way.

Further, I'm surprised that a judge would allow Adolf Hitler and Aryan Nation to be used as childrens' names. I will grant that somebody somewhere let that stupid Urhines Special K kid through the cracks, but usually there are limits to what you can grace your kids with name-wise.

Here's to hoping those guys grow up and get far, far away from their rejects of parents.

[suchislife2]

oh that poor kid! Right now he probably has no clue what implications his name is going to cause! What morons those parents are! While I hate hearing the same names used over and over again there is a point where you got to think.."yeah to us it's funny, but is the kid going to be thinking it's so funny when the other kids at school are bullying him/her?"

I've not really seen a cake with anyones full name on it before...I mean when you sing happy birthday you don't say the full name? I think this is all about publicity...and sadly all they have got (and rightly so) is bad publicity!

Once again...that poor kid! I feel for him! Hope he inherited some brains from his grandparents twice removed or something! Cause their clearly ain't any in that family!

[Sylvia727]

I thought that either the parents were ignorant, or that they were willing to ruin their child's social life and self-esteem for the next 18 years just to prove a moronic point about "sticks and stones" and "letting the past go". But then I read the sister's name, and the dad's comments on how he was raised. "Say he grows up to hang out with black people"? WTF? I have to say that hanging out with black people was never a life choice for me. I have friends, some of whom are black. I never thougt to myself, "Gee, that guy looks like a lot of fun to chill with, but what effect would his skin color have on me?".

As far as I know, the USA does not currently have any system to protect children from stupid names. Somebody else can take the issue to court if they feel it's a problem, but if nobody notices, the kid is screwed. I've heard of other countries that have someone review all the birth certificates, and if they feel the name is questionable they refer it to a judge. I would love to see that in place over here.

[Slytovhand]

Let me just start by quoting the father:

He sounded surprised by all the controversy the dispute had generated.

How stupid does this person have to be???

Sure, you may wish to make a point (in this case, that you're a neo-nazi), but to be surprised that some people may have an issue???? (and if someone dares to suggest he's not a neo-nazi - then why his first daughter's name of Aryan Nation?).

I hope said children grow up to be somewhat more intelligent than the parents (yes, both - she had a say in this as well...).

As for poor little Adolf - I agree - have his first name on the cake - that works (not that he'll even know the difference at this stage! Just wait for his 16th!!)

[daleduke17]

Big deal. So this kid is named Adolf Hitler? Why the fuss?

He isn't a psychopathic dictator (at least not right now). So, we shouldn't allow people to be named any of the following (or have their name inscribed on anything):

- Osama bin Laden
- Timothy McVeigh
- Jack Ruby
- Charles Whitman
- Dylan Klebold
- Eric Harris
- Chris Benoit
- Benito Mussolini

or any other name of a murderer/psycho, right?

[the_std]

The fuss is that this kid will be needlessly tormented for pretty much ever because of it. You think kids are normally mean? Imagine if you were named after one of the biggest evil figures in history. It would be completely traumatizing. And his parents are neo-Nazis. This kid is just being dealt a super shitty hand in life and he has absolutely no control over it. I feel very sorry for him.

[daleduke17]

The fuss is that this kid will be needlessly tormented for pretty much ever because of it. You think kids are normally mean? Imagine if you were named after one of the biggest evil figures in history. It would be completely traumatizing. And his parents are neo-Nazis. This kid is just being dealt a super shitty hand in life and he has absolutely no control over it. I feel very sorry for him.

Where did it say in the article that the parents were neo-Nazis?

[AFPheonix]

The fact that the guy has swastikas tattooed all over him and he has skulls in his house with swastikas in them imply that the guy is a neo-nazi.

http://photos.lehighvalleylive.com/g...ler%20Campbell

[anriana]

Big deal. So this kid is named Adolf Hitler? Why the fuss?

He isn't a psychopathic dictator (at least not right now). So, we shouldn't allow people to be named any of the following (or have their name inscribed on anything):

- Osama bin Laden
- Timothy McVeigh
- Jack Ruby
- Charles Whitman
- Dylan Klebold
- Eric Harris
- Chris Benoit
- Benito Mussolini

or any other name of a murderer/psycho, right?

I only recognized three of the names on that list, and after wiking the rest, I don't think any of them are comparable, in terms of cultural reaction or in terms of people killed. Adolf Hitler triggers an immediate feeling in me that is quite different from any of the names on that list, or even Stalin (killed far more people) or Pol Pot (had a direct effect on people close to me - I don't know anyone directly affected by Hitler). It may be personal bias, but I feel that the American cultural knowledge of Adolf Hitler is greater than that to any other murderer/psycho. I feel that as a country we know far more about his atrocities than the other dictators I mentioned or most of the people on your list. I don't know why exactly - perhaps because of all the Hollywood stuff about him? Perhaps because he governed a West Europe country and that's the region we focus most on in history? Perhaps because Jews are more culturally prevelant than Eastern Europeans/Cambodians? - but I don't think that a child should be allowed to be named after him any more than a child should be allowed to be named Fuck You, because of the reaction that would be invoked in other people. If an adult wants to embarass themselves that way, fine, but it seems cruel to do to a child.

And if an employee doesn't feel comfortable inscribing those names on something, they shouldn't have to do so.

[daleduke17]

And if an employee doesn't feel comfortable inscribing those names on something, they shouldn't have to do so.

Yet employees should be forced to dispense medications that they don't feel comfortable dispensing.

[Pedersen]

Yet employees should be forced to dispense medications that they don't feel comfortable dispensing.

I am impressed, daleduke17. Seriously, I am. However, the power to derail a thread is still insignificant next to the power of the force.

I'll suggest that, if you'd like to debate dispensation of medications against the will of the person holding said medication, you might wish to do so in a thread more appropriate to the topic, such as this one.

And now, to return to the actual topic at hand in this thread: Whether we like it or not, certain words and phrases have deep seated meaning within the US. For instance, "nigger", as a word, holds power: The power to shock and repel people. Other such words: faggot, spic, Klansman, and the like.

"Adolf Hitler" is a reminder of something that emotionally affected many people in the US. The man was shown to be nothing less than a monster. For many people, he was the boogie man made manifest. He was the thing in the shadows at night. He provoked fear, and hatred, and a nearly animalistic survival instinct. People were genuinely frightened of him.

That fear was passed down to their children, who have since passed it along again. It is ironic that, even in death, the man holds such power that his mere name is somehow an invocation of revulsion. Whatever else may be said about him, and his followers, and this family in PA, the revulsion still lives on.

To demand that a store employee write something that causes revulsion in that employee, many other store employees, and is likely to cause the same reactions in the community at large is to say that their feelings as a community are irrelevant.

To make that demand, and not even offer up something to provide a counter balance, to try and ameliorate the effects of fulfilling the demand (as was done with desegregation, where people are now able to interact with people of any race more freely than they could beforehand) is nothing less than abhorrent. It says "I am right, and the rest of the world is wrong for disagreeing me. The simple fact of your disagreement is sufficient to show how wrong you are."

It reeks of arrogance, of self-importance, and of selfishness that would be worthy of infants and toddlers, not adults trying to make the world a better place.

No, these people are wrong in what they have done to their child, and are attention seekers who are using what they have done to their child as a way to get attention for themselves. I hope they get the smackdown they so richly deserve.

[Boozy]

Where did it say in the article that the parents were neo-Nazis?

They named their children Adolf Hitler and Aryan Nation.

What other conclusions would a rational person draw?

Yet employees should be forced to dispense medications that they don't feel comfortable dispensing.

This is a cake. Not potentially life-saving, doctor-prescribed medication.

A cake.

These people were assholes when they named their children, and they were assholes when they insisted that the full name be put on a cake. They were looking for a fight. Even without the disgusting racist attitudes involved, I have no patience for people who start shit for no reason. Antagonistic, immature, and racist. That's the trifecta of suck, right there.

[Rapscallion]

They're also crippling their children for life with names like that.

"Okay, next job application is for someone called ... Adolf Hitler. I don't think that needs to go further than the bin. Obvious prank application."

Many other circumstances abound.

Rapscallion

[Cat]

Raps, that a really good point....I didn't even think about jobs apps or the like...I just thought how this poor kid is gonna get his bum kicked in school....