Sadism/Masochism

[Seshat]

Saidsm and masochism are mental illnesses

In rereading this thread, I am reminded of something...

If it interferes with your ability to live fully, participate in life and enjoy life, it's a mental illness. If it doesn't, it's a personality trait.

[Slytovhand]

I'm going to agree with Flyn... but for quite different reasons that he'd come up with.

Firstly, I figure that about 99% of the world's population is insane. Its not sane to want to cause someone pain, or harm, or kill them. Yet, that's what humans are doing all over the world, and 'justify' it. It's not sane to abuse someone you're close to, yet people do it because they can't just face up to the truth about situations...

And a whole stack of other obvious things.

This is just another one that the world is going to think is perfectly 'normal', while it continues on in it's insane ways..... 'normal'=insane on this planet...

[Seshat]

That comment and your sig go together SO perfectly.

[unholypet]

As a member of both adjectives, I say its not bad at all.

If something feels good, why would you want to stop? One could say the say for alcoholics or addicts, and at the same time, if its not causing lasting damage, or obvious mental harm, why bother?

Everyone's had a little rough poking, even if you're not into either category. You get into the mood and the feel, and you/your partner hurts a little, but it feels good? Its the same thing, on a low level.

I am a practicioner of switch slave/master with my man. We're lovers and fighters, outside of the bedroom, and love to spar and push our limits. Something as simple as two martial artists, fighters, as a couple, fighting and enjoying it isn't bad. For me, its just foreplay.

A lot of people don't seem to understand the love and trust you place in each other.


If you have a doctor, that has treated you very well as a patient, they listen and have never steered you wrong, you trust them?

You love and trust your mother/father, who has always been there for you and loves you no matter what, is that wrong?

With both, you have and will place your lives in their hands (whether as an adult or child), and you have a bond that would be hard to break, no?

Why would it be bad to put your life in the hands of your love?

To quote someone I know: there's a big difference between 'hurt' and 'harm'. As I understand it, there's quite a lot of this sort of sexplay that can be done without so much as a bruise.

That's very true. Just like vanilla, its up to the pair how far they go with each other.

Its also worth mentioning that you can cause a large amount of sensation (being a feeling with a very thin line of hurt/good) with no marks whatsoever.

[Nyoibo]

Who was it who said "Show me a sane man and I'll cure him"?