Former teacher pleads No Contest.....

[Titi]

to charges of feeding elementary school children SEMEN LACED COOKIES!

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crim...icle-1.1517836

[hinakiba777]

I am happy that the plea deal went through, if only so that the children aren't "re traumatized" as the article said.

Also, EW that is so messed up. I mean, that is just disgusting and perverse. Those poor poor children.

[Greenday]

I just can't even fathom why someone would do something like this. It just doesn't make sense.

Glad he just plead no contest and saved everybody a lot of time, money, and emotional damage.

[Canarr]

Not everyone saved money; apparently, there's some settlement cash to be made from one's child ingesting disgusting cookies:

Dozens of lawsuits and claims were filed on behalf of victims. Sean Rossall, a district spokesman, said 63 cases have been settled for a total of $29.5 million, and 71 are pending.

That's almost 500,000 $ for each case, courtesy of Los Angeles tax payers. How, exactly, were those children traumatized that it required half a million each?

[Kelmon]

According to the article, he "murdered them emotionally". Seriously? If there had been no investigation, no one would have ever known but him. 500.000$ for this is beyond ridiculous.

Somehow, I almost find it more disturbing that a photo technician reported his photos of blindfolded children to the authorities. While i don't know exactly what was in those photos, i'm guessing from the article it's nothing more than those children being blindfolded for tasting various food items in school.
Yes, his suspicion turned out to be right, but should every man be wary of bringing his kid's birthday photos to a photo lab, because a visit from the police is sure to follow?

[Ginger Tea]

People still use photolabs?

I never saw the whole film, I think I have the DVD though, in One hour Photo Robin Williams is mentally noting his queue, either from past experiences dealing with them in person or just dealing with the public in general.

in 97 my mum picked up my photo's from the old 3 day turn around as I was working shifts and unable to do so myself, I told her there would be a few shots of me naked in a graveyard (that I later found out happened to be next to a police station) she didn't report any shocked looks from the staff, nor did they confiscate them under any pornography laws there may be in place in the UK during the 90's, yet that on pic I took of our dog on her back that I took just to finish off a roll some years prior never showed up, it wasn't one of those 'too blurry to print so we didn't bother', I could see our dog, so either it was confiscated due to dog genitalia or it was kept back because someone got off on dog genitalia.

I often wonder how many readers wives photos were actually submitted by a member of staff making copies than the couple involved.

[wolfie]

Many years ago I read about a case where Penthouse went to court to get photos of their centerfold model returned. At the time, standard photo lab policy was to return the negatives (i.e. the original film that had been sent in for developing) but not the prints. Problem in this case was that the photos had been shot on Kodachrome - Kodak argued that it was standard policy to withhold positives, Penthouse argued that it was standard policy to return developed film.

Couple things I didn't understand about the case:
- How had they got back photos for all prior issues of the magazine?
- Why didn't they get the photographer to shoot with E-6 (slide film that could be processed by independent labs - K-14 could only be processed by Kodak) and send it to one of the "specialty" labs that charged more but wouldn't censor content ("Male Order Photo" was one of the big ones - and Penthouse must have known about it, because they carried its ads) or even processed the film in-house?

IIRC, the court ruled that the slides must be returned.

[Titi]

According to the article, he "murdered them emotionally". Seriously? If there had been no investigation, no one would have ever known but him. 500.000$ for this is beyond ridiculous.

Somehow, I almost find it more disturbing that a photo technician reported his photos of blindfolded children to the authorities. While i don't know exactly what was in those photos, i'm guessing from the article it's nothing more than those children being blindfolded for tasting various food items in school.
Yes, his suspicion turned out to be right, but should every man be wary of bringing his kid's birthday photos to a photo lab, because a visit from the police is sure to follow?

UMMMMM! Parents have been complaining about SEXUAL HARASSMENT to their daughters since the early '90s! Why was he not investigated then? Why was he still allowed to teach?

But of course it is worse for the photo tech to report the pics (which have to be really bad before they even blip to our eyes, because we are required BY LAW to report anything we think is child abuse. So NO adult nudity is not what we care about, blindfolds at parties, okay. Even Halloween parties where they are obviously teasing the kids with fake snakes while blindfolded OKAY.) than the person who actually did this and caused these children for over 20 years to lose trust in adults. The adults who are supposed to be there for them and not feed them something that probably tasted absolutely disgusting (and was disgusting).

[Canarr]

UMMMMM! Parents have been complaining about SEXUAL HARASSMENT to their daughters since the early '90s! Why was he not investigated then? Why was he still allowed to teach?

Where'd you get that? The article you quote mentions complaints from the '90s, but says nothing about the nature of them. Did you find some other source?

...the person who actually did this and caused these children for over 20 years to lose trust in adults. The adults who are supposed to be there for them and not feed them something that probably tasted absolutely disgusting (and was disgusting).

Okay, something is missing here... the article also states that some of the kids developed eating disorders from the trauma. What I'm not getting is... how, exactly? Did the guy tell the kids afterwards, "HAHA! You just ate my SEMEN!!!!!", or what? Those are elementary school kids, right? How would they even know what that is? And how would it - to them - be any different from the disgusting things that kids of that age tend to eat of their own volition?

Even disregarding the sickness of feeding sperm to dozens of kids, this whole thing is strange. Who needs a spoon to eat cookies? How, exactly, were the children traumatized? If they didn't know what they were eating, they wouldn't have been; and if he told them, and did this for 20 years, how did not one single parent call the cops on him? Why did it take some photo guy to get suspicious of blindfold pictures?

This whole thing makes no sense to me.

[Ginger Tea]

If they didn't know what they were eating, they wouldn't have been; and if he told them, and did this for 20 years, how did not one single parent call the cops on him? Why did it take some photo guy to get suspicious of blindfold pictures?

When I first heard about Sir (though he might have had that title stripped posthumously) Jimmy Saville and all the sex abuse he was alleged to be involved in, I thought it odd to wait till he was dead to come forwards, part of me thought "Well I can say what I want about what he did even if it's a lie, he's dead and cant defend himself in court."

All these people coming out of the woodwork since the 60's or at least the 70's and none thought as they got a bit older "I should tell someone about this".

[s_stabeler]

part of it is fear of retribution. Once the guy is dead, the guy can't necessarily defend himself, but he equally cant do anything to the victims for coming forwards. It's why there is usually an appeal for further victims to come forward when a rapist is caught- the idea is that with the rapist caught, his/her victims will be more likely to come forward.

[fireheart17]

Okay, something is missing here... the article also states that some of the kids developed eating disorders from the trauma. What I'm not getting is... how, exactly? Did the guy tell the kids afterwards, "HAHA! You just ate my SEMEN!!!!!", or what? Those are elementary school kids, right? How would they even know what that is? And how would it - to them - be any different from the disgusting things that kids of that age tend to eat of their own volition?

It doesn't say WHEN those kids developed eating disorders. If anything, the article is likely using it to further drum up the "SHOCK HORROR". Eating disorders aren't always as clear-cut as the movies and TV VSE's make them out to be.

Even disregarding the sickness of feeding sperm to dozens of kids, this whole thing is strange. Who needs a spoon to eat cookies?

If he was doing it as part of a science lesson, the spoon would've been likely a more hygienic measure as well as looking at the concept of a "fair test" ie could the taste have been affected by my sweat or by the cookie touching the tabletop? Having the spoon there prevented any bias or the teachers fingers getting sucked/licked/bitten.

If they didn't know what they were eating, they wouldn't have been; and if he told them, and did this for 20 years, how did not one single parent call the cops on him?

He might've told them it had some salt in it or something less innocuous. So he may have "told them" it had some disgusting ingredient in it, but not something that would cause parents to go "oh shit he's doing WHAT to my children"

[HYHYBT]

People still use photolabs?

Even with digital cameras, many people want prints made. And some still use film.

...yet that on pic I took of our dog on her back that I took just to finish off a roll some years prior never showed up, it wasn't one of those 'too blurry to print so we didn't bother', I could see our dog, so either it was confiscated due to dog genitalia or it was kept back because someone got off on dog genitalia.

Not necessarily. If it was the last photo on the roll, it might not quite have been a full frame, even if what there is on the negative looks fine.