The Octuplet Mama

[I8DaCookie]

It seems one of her own children has more sense than she does:

Most of Suleman’s children aren’t aware of what is about to happen to their family, but 6-year-old Amerah told “Dateline” that she didn’t think eight more siblings is a good idea.

"Do you think it'll be fun to have a lot of brothers and sisters like that?” Curry asked.

“No,” Amerah said.

“Why not?”

“'Cause there's gonna be a lot of crying.”

“Do you think your mom's going to be okay with all those kids all the time?”

“She's gonna be stressed out all the time,” Amerah opined.

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[IDrinkaRum]

OMG! I forgot that part! Thank you for reminding me. XD That is too precious. The things that come out of the mouths of babes, huh?

[Greenday]

Nadya Suleman has created a website

She's asking for donations to help her and her little ones out.

And now she's trying to make a buck off of having so much kids through the internet. Awesome. Keep on being classy.

[IDrinkaRum]

Just received this link from a friend of mine

California taxpayers might have to pay for the woman's children and costs associated with them.

This is incredibly disgusting considering the fact the state is already in debt and are asking bailout for help. Now this?

What should be done now?

[tropicsgoddess]

Three words...Whiskey Tango Foxtrot. Isn't six kids enough?!! I thought they only put in one egg at a time in a woman for In-Vitro Fertilization. They should've told her no or at least limited her to one, but also if she's on all kinds of government assistance, how was she able to afford all those procedures?!

[Greenday]

Three words...Whiskey Tango Foxtrot. Isn't six kids enough?!! I thought they only put in one egg at a time in a woman for In-Vitro Fertilization. They should've told her no or at least limited her to one, but also if she's on all kinds of government assistance, how was she able to afford all those procedures?!

They shouldn't have done it. It was medically unethical and the guy should, and mostly likely will, be stripped of his medical license.

[Caveat Emptor]

Mother of 14 with no job opens online donation web site

http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/02/12/oct...mom/index.html

And believe me, she'll get donations. From ultra-liberal bleeding hearts, others who would otherwise be answering Nigerian email scams and giving to every charity that calls them.

[Caveat Emptor]

She's actually set up a donation website. She's obviously an attention whore. And like I said in a thread I just started under "social woes," she'll GET donations, because there are enough morons out there who will sympthize with her.

[IDrinkaRum]

She's actually set up a donation website. She's obviously an attention whore. And like I said in a thread I just started under "social woes," she'll GET donations, because there are enough morons out there who will sympthize with her.

I'm a mom ... I don't sympathize with her at all. I have a friend who had to go through in-vitro because of a combination of factors concerning her & her husband. They have a beautiful little girl who is 3 now. They're wanting another chld, and will have to do another round of IVFs.

As for the California taxpayers having to "help" with her "burden"? I say: She made her bed and now has to lie in it. She wanted the kids, she pays for them. F this.

[Greenday]

Just so you know, it's already pointed out in the The Octoplet Mama thread in Clash of Cultures.

Mod Edit: I've merged them. One thread on this very specific case is plenty.

[DesignFox]

Yea, if I were a California taxpayer, I'd be even more pissed off about this than I already am.

If she works double shifts and goes back to school just to have the money to throw at them, she won't be available for the emotional support she so condemns other parents for not providing. And that's if it was even possible. They estimate the cost for raising 14 kids at, what, 1.3 MILLION a year? Let's let the implications of this sink in. Double shifts at the shrink ain't earning you a million dollar salary.

Lady, you're already on food-stamps. Your disability payments have run out. You've already got three disabled kids. Now you added 8 more? Really?

Those children should be taken away while they are still babies and the effect won't be so traumatic. This woman cannot care for them.

[IDrinkaRum]

DesignFox - I completely agree with you. She can't afford the kids, expects people to help her out 'cos it's her "God-given right" to have children and because she was able to get pregnant with all 8 embryos, she believes it takes a village (or in this case, a whole state of villages) to raise her children. Nope, no way. Take the children. They need to have responsible people taking care of them.

[Dreamstalker]

also if she's on all kinds of government assistance, how was she able to afford all those procedures?!

That's why I call shenanigans on the part of the clinic (which I believe she was working for at the time this took place).

In-freaking-sane. I hope nobody is stupid enough to donate.

[NightAngel]

Since I only have one tv channel right now we watch things we would normally never watch. Like Dr. Phil. I have to say though I thought his show on this yesterday was very interesting.

First off, Ms. Suleman was not on the show- her PR AGENT was. Now, Dr. Phil didn't ask but I'd like to know how she can afford a PR Agent? The woman didn't seem to be very good as all she could say to anything dr. Phil asked was that Nadia Suleman is, 'a good Christian woman who did not know this would happen. She only expect one or two like before.'
I told my hubby that either this woman sucks at PR or her heart wasn't anymore in it than the rest of America- a good Spin Doctor can sell even the worst ideas to a good number of people.

Even Kate Goselin (on Dr. Phil) said that she couldn't imagine Nadia Suleman's situation. They had a team of 50 people helping them at first, FIFTY, and those people all got worn out and went away. She also seemed to have misgivings about Ms. Suleman's mental health and worries about the very real possibility of what will happen when/if Post Partum depression hits.

Oh, she paid for the IVF from a court settlement she recieved. Her Mother is furious that she used the money for that instead of providing for the 6 she has or helping with the bills. Neither of which she does.

Anyhoo...

This is MY solution and yes, it is HARSH as so many things I actually think are.

1. The eight babies should be put up for adoption- no, I don't mean by choice.
2. Nadia Suleman should be forced to have surgery to prevent ever getting pregnant again.

To keep the kids she has:
3. She should HAVE to get ongoing therapy and be taught social and problem solving skills.
3a. She should HAVE to attend parenting classes.
4. She should HAVE to get a job- even if it is part time.
5. Her parents should be given temporary custody and assistance for raising the 6 original children until the time (when/if) their daughter is stable enough mentally and financially to raise them herself.
5a. Even if she is living with her parents the state should garnish her wages from #4 for Child Support to her parents.
6. She should have to finish her degree. Period.

I know some people won't like the "and assistance" part of #5 but here's my reasoning:
Her parents are old and their earning potential for these kids is not there. The Grandparents and the kids are, in my opinion, VICTIMS of Nadia Suleman. None of them asked for this and I think it would be a great disservice to the children's mental/emotional health to be removed from their grandparents who really DO love and care about them.

With six kids this family could be rehabilitated and turned around.
With 14 it will NEVER be right.

[DesignFox]

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I know some people won't like the "and assistance" part of #5 but here's my reasoning:
Her parents are old and their earning potential for these kids is not there. The Grandparents and the kids are, in my opinion, VICTIMS of Nadia Suleman. None of them asked for this and I think it would be a great disservice to the children's mental/emotional health to be removed from their grandparents who really DO love and care about them.

With six kids this family could be rehabilitated and turned around.
With 14 it will NEVER be right.

I agree with this sentiment. The grandparents have been doing everything they can to care for those children and not be a drain on taxpayer resources. The assistance the mother has been getting should be taken away from her and given into their name since we know that in their case the money would be used for the right reasons.