Kid Stabs Bully To Death: Could be tried as an adult.

[Nyoibo]

Replace kids with adults, the attacked carrying a gun, suddenly it's all ok...

[SkullKing]

If you harass someone to the point where they try to hang themselves....

And for the record, the bully attacked him first. He punched him then kneed him in the face. Then he got stabbed. Also, the police were called several times about the whole following him home, pissing on his door, etc. They would come and the kids would leave but the police declined to do anything further. The family also repeatedly sought help from the police and school, neither did anything.

This also apparently started over an iPhone, which the victim had borrowed but his mother lost/broke.

Its further worth pointing out that the victim is special needs and has tourette's and a speech impediment. Two things they mercilessly mocked him for ( along with calling him gay, etc and the usual shit ).

But for the ultimate dick move: It was Children's Services that ordered his parents to send him back to school after he released from hospital after his suicide attempt.

This seems like a complete, total and utter fucking failure of every single adult in a position of authority around this kid that led to this.

As far as I am concerned, that is definitely grounds for a knifing.

The victim tried to run and hide, tried to get help from the authorities who failed miserably, realized he had to protect himself the way he could and did.

Well done, and good luck.

It´s is a shame that the authorities' negligent behavior resulted in the loss of one kid´s life(he was the aggressor, but kids can grow up and change), and distress for the victim.

[D_Yeti_Esquire]

I don't see how anyone with any empathy or common sense would want to prosecute this kid.

I think "want to" doesn't factor in at this point. If the state can prove a case beyond a reasonable doubt, that is it's obligation. It's up to the jury to say, "yea... fuck that."

[Greenday]

I don't see how anyone with any empathy or common sense would want to prosecute this kid.

A child dies and people in this thread celebrate it. Empathy my ass. What about empathy for the parents of the dead kid? Adults in power did nothing to do something about it. I realize a lot of people here have been bullied. I was bullied too. But cheering some kid on for stabbing a bully to death? That's disgusting and crosses the line.

[fireheart17]

A child dies and people in this thread celebrate it. Empathy my ass. What about empathy for the parents of the dead kid? Adults in power did nothing to do something about it. I realize a lot of people here have been bullied. I was bullied too. But cheering some kid on for stabbing a bully to death? That's disgusting and crosses the line.

The only thing I'm wondering at this point is whether the parents of the bully tried to help the bully. I've seen children who display aggressive behaviour or are downright nasty to others repeatedly. Sometimes the parents aren't aware. The parents that are aware and do care will try and get help. The parents that are aware and don't care wind up having the child attack them as well to the point where only therapy can save them more or less.

Yes, the victim of said bully got screwed over by the system heavily. But I'd say that the bully himself also got screwed over majorly: either the parents didn't care or encouraged it, or they were aware but felt powerless to do anything about said behaviour. OR, there's the chance that the bully fed his/her parents a sob story and they let him do the behaviours he did because he was "getting revenge".

Either way, the bully should have received some help too. If the parents didn't do that (either because they didn't care or because they encouraged it), then they are as bad as the bully themselves.

[Gravekeeper]

A child dies and people in this thread celebrate it. Empathy my ass. What about empathy for the parents of the dead kid? Adults in power did nothing to do something about it. I realize a lot of people here have been bullied. I was bullied too. But cheering some kid on for stabbing a bully to death? That's disgusting and crosses the line.

No one is cheering or celebrating and you would be on the opposite side of this argument if everyone involved was 4 years older. So don't give us that bullshit. Never mind perpetrating the "kids will be kids" bullshit that led to this to begin with.

"Bully" is not a magic word that makes driving another human being to suicide over a fucking iPhone okay in any way shape or form.

[Greenday]

No one is cheering or celebrating and you would be on the opposite side of this argument if everyone involved was 4 years older. So don't give us that bullshit. Never mind perpetrating the "kids will be kids" bullshit that led to this to begin with.

"Bully" is not a magic word that makes driving another human being to suicide over a fucking iPhone okay in any way shape or form.

Well done, and good luck.

It´s is a shame that the authorities' negligent behavior resulted in the loss of one kid´s life(he was the aggressor, but kids can grow up and change), and distress for the victim.

That's from this page alone. Seems to be a very joyous response.

[Gravekeeper]

That's from this page alone. Seems to be a very joyous response.

In what reality? If you ignore every other part of the post ( Including the part you yourself just quoted ) and the rest of the entire thread perhaps. And yes, I have gone back and read the whole thread. So you can't pull "From this page alone" as if its the tip of some shocking iceberg.

But feel free to keep being outraged and implying everyone in the thread is a terrible person because of the power of imagination.

[Hyena Dandy]

It´s is a shame that the authorities' negligent behavior resulted in the loss of one kid´s life(he was the aggressor, but kids can grow up and change), and distress for the victim.

Yes, very celebratory.

[protege]

It's unfortunate, but the bully brought it upon himself. He chose to put himself in that position, and accepted his fate. Unfortunately, his "prey" fought back. There's always a bigger gorilla in the jungle, and he learned that by paying the price. With that said, I can't exactly have any sympathy for the guy.

Nor can I have any for the bully's family. In many cases, the parents choose to either ignore the behavior or outright deny it. How many times in the papers do we read "my kid was always such a good boy," a quote attributed to a parents or other family member after a fight/attack/shooting? For example, after the recent Franklin school stabbings, that quote was thrown around a bit in the papers. I couldn't help but think "No, your son is *not* a good boy. He's a fucking asshole who stabbed several people for no reason!"

[fireheart17]

Nor can I have any for the bully's family. In many cases, the parents choose to either ignore the behavior or outright deny it. How many times in the papers do we read "my kid was always such a good boy," a quote attributed to a parents or other family member after a fight/attack/shooting? For example, after the recent Franklin school stabbings, that quote was thrown around a bit in the papers. I couldn't help but think "No, your son is *not* a good boy. He's a fucking asshole who stabbed several people for no reason!"

This is the point I made above earlier. I would sympathise more if the parents had actually gotten the bully any help at all and the school was able to also assist with this (before anyone says "No, it should not be the schools responsibility to help this kid not be a bully" what I mean by this is that say, the kid attends sessions with someone to work through ways to be a better person so to speak and get that same "thrill" without harming others)

[lordlundar]

I think "want to" doesn't factor in at this point. If the state can prove a case beyond a reasonable doubt, that is it's obligation. It's up to the jury to say, "yea... fuck that."

Pretty much. It's legal obligation all the way through. Right now the kid's best hope is that the defense attorney makes a solid enough defense for the jury to render a not guilty verdict and the judge to not disregard the verdict.

[Rageaholic]

It's unfortunate, but the bully brought it upon himself. He chose to put himself in that position, and accepted his fate. Unfortunately, his "prey" fought back. There's always a bigger gorilla in the jungle, and he learned that by paying the price. With that said, I can't exactly have any sympathy for the guy.

Nor can I have any for the bully's family. In many cases, the parents choose to either ignore the behavior or outright deny it. How many times in the papers do we read "my kid was always such a good boy," a quote attributed to a parents or other family member after a fight/attack/shooting? For example, after the recent Franklin school stabbings, that quote was thrown around a bit in the papers. I couldn't help but think "No, your son is *not* a good boy. He's a fucking asshole who stabbed several people for no reason!"

Exactly what I was going to say. I figured the "think about the poor bully and his family" card would be played eventually. Fuck them! They dug their own grave by attacking the kid. I mean, I don't know if he deserved to die, but the kid who was being picked on didn't deserve the shit he went through either. Do you really expect him to give a rats ass about the bully at this point? The bully surely didn't give a rats ass about him.

If thinking that this kid shouldn't be tried for defending himself makes me a cold blooded bastard than so be it.

[eltf177]

I have zero empathy for the bully or his family, all mine is with the victim who was victimized more than once by the system and is going to get the shaft from the system yet _again_!

[protege]

Do you really expect him to give a rats ass about the bully at this point? The bully surely didn't give a rats ass about him.

I didn't give a rat's ass about the bully I had to deal with in high school either. In fact, I couldn't help but laugh when he was found next to a dumpster behind a bar one night. Not killed, but he was a bloody mess. Apparently, from what I read in the paper, he thought it was a good idea to rough up (and possibly rob) someone that night. That someone...beat the fuck out of him