Kid Stabs Bully To Death: Could be tried as an adult.

[D_Yeti_Esquire]

'Eh, neither the bully nor the bullied are doing anything particularly outside the norm of childhood development. I stop far short of sanctioning "justifiable homicide" unless the bully was also packing weaponry. Both of these kids were failed, not just the kid that was getting bullied.

I'm not going to go all righteous indignation on anyone that doesn't have sympathy/empathy for the bully or his family, but they come out of the same warped socialization we all get and we're all lucky that when we were at our most stupid it didn't cost us our lives (whatever flavor of stupid we were personally most prone/exposed to).

The part of me that writes (and the part of me that lives in NY) doesn't even require much creativity to see the bully may very well have been in his own tragic situation.

[Hyena Dandy]

I have zero empathy for the bully or his family, all mine is with the victim who was victimized more than once by the system and is going to get the shaft from the system yet _again_!

I have definite empathy for his family. They probably didn't raise him with the goal of having a douchebag, and they may not have known just how much and what he was up to. They might have known he was up to something and been trying to get him help. At any rate, their kid is dead, and while it may have been justified on the part of his killer, that's still something to mourn.

I even have empathy for him. But the majority of my empathy goes to the victim, and in this case, the victim is not the person who got stabbed trying to beat someone up, the victim is the person who was stalked and assaulted.

[Jester]

Wow, the situation was already fucked up enough and now child services basically forced him to go to school. This should eliminate any doubt that this was NOT a premeditated murder.

It does no such thing. You may think it eliminates all doubt, but neither you, nor I, nor anyone in this thread KNOWS all that happened, and are basing our various assumptions on the littl that we've read about it. One realistic and possible wcenario is that the kid was bullied, but still premidated murdering the bully, taking the knife to school that day for just that purpose. Or he may well have brought the knife to try to ward off any potential attacks that day, either by showing the knife and hoping it scared off his would be bully, or by using it in self defense. Any and all of these are possible. But none of us here KNOW what happens, nor can we eliminated all doubt merely from reading some newspaper articles. That is why we have a justice system.

We can debate whether or not he should be charged, and whether or not he should be tried as an adult, and whether or not the system failed both kids. But we cannot simply say "all doubt is eliminated" with what little information we have, none of which is hard evidence.

A child dies and people in this thread celebrate it. Empathy my ass. What about empathy for the parents of the dead kid? Adults in power did nothing to do something about it. I realize a lot of people here have been bullied. I was bullied too. But cheering some kid on for stabbing a bully to death? That's disgusting and crosses the line.

No one celebrated it. I saw people say the kid was justified, and that he should not be tried as an adult, and that he did what he had to do, but I saw no one cheering him on or celebrating the death of the child. Not in this thread. Cheering him on? Really?

"Hey, Bob, did you hear what the Murphy kid did to that Johnson bully? Yeah, a knife right to the guy. Good shot, I say." No one did this, or anything close to this. So stop creating something that isn't there.