and more NFL violence-Adrian Peterson

[BlaqueKatt]

Adrian Peterson of the minnesota vikings indicted on child abuse charges, suspended for at least one game.

what makes me ill is the quotes from a man(and his lawyer) whose other child was beaten to death not even a year ago.

Peterson's lawyer said the "charged conduct involves using a switch to spank his son" -- explaining that his client did so while doling out discipline "much like "he experienced as a child growing up in east Texas."

"Adrian never intended to harm his son and deeply regrets the unintentional injury."

Oh, so because his parents did it, and he didn't intend to "cause harm*" it's ok then.


*because hitting a child with an object tickles if you're not intending harm.

[s_stabeler]

actually, it is an important point to make. if he intended to kill his kid ( which i honestly doubt) he should be charged with murder. If not, then manslaughter is appropiate.

[BlaqueKatt]

actually, it is an important point to make. if he intended to kill his kid ( which i honestly doubt) he should be charged with murder. If not, then manslaughter is appropiate.

this is his living 10 year-old son he's charged with abusing. The 2 year old was killed a year ago by the mother's boyfriend.

[crashhelmet]

this is his living 10 year-old son he's charged with abusing. The 2 year old was killed a year ago by the mother's boyfriend.

Wasn't it later revealed that the child that died wasn't his son? He only thought it was?

[Gravekeeper]

Wasn't it later revealed that the child that died wasn't his son? He only thought it was?

It was his son but he never met him.

And he's being charged with abusing his 4 year old son.

He used a belt and left the kid bruised and bleeding when he brought him back to his mother. Also included: Photos of injuries sustained and awful human being text messages.

[crashhelmet]

It was his son but he never met him.

And he's being charged with abusing his 4 year old son.

He used a belt and left the kid bruised and bleeding when he brought him back to his mother. Also included: Photos of injuries sustained and awful human being text messages.

Reports are that it was a switch and not a belt. They say he made the child go out and get a tree branch to be punished with. The worst part is that the pictures shown of the wounds are approximately 1 week into healing.

[s_stabeler]

It was his son but he never met him.

And he's being charged with abusing his 4 year old son.

He used a belt and left the kid bruised and bleeding when he brought him back to his mother. Also included: Photos of injuries sustained and awful human being text messages.

yeah, by any definition that's abuse.

[Gravekeeper]

Reports are that it was a switch and not a belt. They say he made the child go out and get a tree branch to be punished with.

4:10 PM PT -- According to the police report, the child told authorities he had also been hit by a belt and there were "a lot of belts in daddy's closet."

Apparently, its both.

[Kristev]

Can we please just ban these 'professional' sports? Quit paying these overgrown children who clearly have no self-control and don't recognize the rights of others such as their wives and children not to be touched in any way that isn't loving and tender and just shut down the whole program?

I have always been against sports programs to begin with, let alone at a 'professional' level, and this is a big part of why. It's not the only part, but it's well over half.

[Mongo Skruddgemire]

Can we please just ban these 'professional' sports? Quit paying these overgrown children who clearly have no self-control and don't recognize the rights of others such as their wives and children not to be touched in any way that isn't loving and tender and just shut down the whole program?

I have always been against sports programs to begin with, let alone at a 'professional' level, and this is a big part of why. It's not the only part, but it's well over half.

Because there are a large number of professional sports players who do not do these things.

You have 32 teams with 53 people each. That's 1,696 people in total. And that's not counting College Football teams nor is it counting the Baseball, Basketball, Hockey, etc teams nor is it counting the professional teams that don't get national level coverage (like the minor leagues of Baseball or the other leagues you don't hear of outside of their areas).

There is a metric crap ton of players out there who don't abuse drugs, their children, their wives, do anything illegal...

Should we shut it all down just because of a few douche nozzles?

[D_Yeti_Esquire]

Maybe?

Seriously, the reality is that a large number of people who otherwise do not care or follow sports are having a lot to say in this. That's not a bad or good thing, but when you see people say things like "shut down the sport" "disband the team" etc. in response to events like this (I remember a case of an hockey team getting disbanded because of rape) some people have no attachment to the sport but they have a lot to the topic of rape or abuse. Essentially it's a no cost high reward thing for them to say.

In this case though, this is where I wanted to see what was going to happen. How the NFL does this is going to make or break their case against Rice since if they can't even keep consistency on the next decision after Rice, I suspect the NFL will lose during Rice's appeal because the NFLPA probably isn't happy about defending Rice, but from a Union perspective the NFL can't be allowed to randomly choose rules when they feel like it. If they have evidence of bruises and cuts on the child, I don't know how Peterson wasn't suspended indefinitely.

[Gravekeeper]

annnd he's back on the roster for Sunday's game.

Can we please just ban these 'professional' sports? Quit paying these overgrown children who clearly have no self-control and don't recognize the rights of others such as their wives and children not to be touched in any way that isn't loving and tender and just shut down the whole program?

This is mainly an NFL issue and its biggest problem is domestic violence. The rate of domestic violence amongst NFL players vs the general public in the same income bracket is alarming ( Just over twice the national rate. ). Other professional leagues don't have this problem. Not even the NBA. When it comes to the CFL or the NHL for example you can pretty much count the serious player crimes in their entire histories on one hand really.

There's a definite problem within the NFL culture. Both amongst players and the league itself.

[TheHuckster]

Can we please just ban these 'professional' sports? Quit paying these overgrown children who clearly have no self-control and don't recognize the rights of others such as their wives and children not to be touched in any way that isn't loving and tender and just shut down the whole program?

I have always been against sports programs to begin with, let alone at a 'professional' level, and this is a big part of why. It's not the only part, but it's well over half.

Are you seriously suggesting the government should pass a law which disbands professional sports teams because some members are rapists and murderers?

Do you really think if Adrian Peterson were not a professional athlete, he'd somehow magically be a better person who doesn't hurt his kids?

[Herebecause]

Are you seriously suggesting the government should pass a law which disbands professional sports teams because some members are rapists and murderers?

Do you really think if Adrian Peterson were not a professional athlete, he'd somehow magically be a better person who doesn't hurt his kids?

I do not think professional sports should be banned, but I do have to wonder about the fact that there are a lot of retired football players who are dealing with some heavy brain-related injuries, including reports of violence. Connecting the dots, these violent tendencies we are seeing in football players now could be related to repeated brain injuries combined with a job that requires them to be violent. Combine that with the fact that professional athletes are treated like heroes and so they tend to have fairly large egos and believe they can get away with almost anything. So, yes, maybe if Peterson were not a professional athlete, maybe he wouldn't be the type of person who thinks it is okay to abuse his child. Of course, this is not something that can be proven either way since we do not have the ability to see life in an alternative universe.

Of course, the answer isn't in banning the sport but in looking at changes that should be made within the sport, and that includes banning players like Peterson or at least suspending them until they are convicted of a crime (it may be harder to ban someone like Ray since he hasn't actually been charged with a crime, but there are other things the NFL can and should do so that he cannot play anymore).

[Greenday]

In this case though, this is where I wanted to see what was going to happen. How the NFL does this is going to make or break their case against Rice since if they can't even keep consistency on the next decision after Rice, I suspect the NFL will lose during Rice's appeal because the NFLPA probably isn't happy about defending Rice, but from a Union perspective the NFL can't be allowed to randomly choose rules when they feel like it. If they have evidence of bruises and cuts on the child, I don't know how Peterson wasn't suspended indefinitely.

Well, if the Rice case ends up in court, Ray Rice will probably destroy the NFL. You can't punish someone twice for the same crime, regardless of whether the first punishment was grossly insufficient.

This is mainly an NFL issue and its biggest problem is domestic violence. The rate of domestic violence amongst NFL players vs the general public in the same income bracket is alarming ( Just over twice the national rate. ). Other professional leagues don't have this problem. Not even the NBA. When it comes to the CFL or the NHL for example you can pretty much count the serious player crimes in their entire histories on one hand really.

There's a definite problem within the NFL culture. Both amongst players and the league itself.

Actually, the biggest issue for the NFL is drunk driving/DUIs. It's by far the most committed crime by the players. I don't get it since every single NFL team has a safe ride program that allows players to call for a ride free of charge, no questions asked. It's just for some reason, DUIs don't seem to be a big deal to the public.