Burger King Apple Pie Guy

[Rageaholic]

I couldn't think of a better threat title to describe this.

Now assuming this isn't made up, does anyone think this was a real dick move? I was sympathetic toward the guy until he decided to buy out the pies just to spite the kid. He not only went out of his way, but he most likely made things much worse for everyone.

[HYHYBT]

I'm wondering if this would even work with Burger King's pies.

[Greenday]

I find it pretty funny. The kid got what he had coming and the woman will pay dearly for being a crappy parent.

[Kheldarson]

I find it pretty funny. The kid got what he had coming and the woman will pay dearly for being a crappy parent.

Except....

Coming or not, you know that kid didn't learn anything except adults are jerks. And we don't know why he was acting out, only that he was. Maybe he has issues and mom was trying to do damage control. Or maybe, yeah, he's a spoiled brat. Don't know, and neither does this guy.

Yet we want to congratulate him for being a jerk to a kid? Great lessons there.

[BlaqueKatt]

Yet we want to congratulate him for being a jerk to a kid? Great lessons there.

bullying is bad.....unless....

4 types of bullying we're ok with

[s_stabeler]

I don't particularly agree with what the guy did.The problem I have is that ultimately, he did it simply because he had been having a bad day. Yes, the kid should not have thrown a tantrum. Yes, the mother should ahve disciplined the kid. Yes, the mother was rude by telling the guy off for asking her to quiet the kid down. But to deliberately prevent another patron from eating, ultimately because you were having a bad day? not a good idea. Especially when the kid was simply loud. Had it been Burger King chucking the kid out, i would applaud. but a fellow patron? no.

[Rageaholic]

I don't particularly agree with what the guy did.The problem I have is that ultimately, he did it simply because he had been having a bad day. Yes, the kid should not have thrown a tantrum. Yes, the mother should ahve disciplined the kid. Yes, the mother was rude by telling the guy off for asking her to quiet the kid down. But to deliberately prevent another patron from eating, ultimately because you were having a bad day? not a good idea. Especially when the kid was simply loud. Had it been Burger King chucking the kid out, i would applaud. but a fellow patron? no.

Pretty much this.

Even if that wasn't the case and he really thought he could teach the kid a lesson, that's not his job. Ultimately, he'll never see the kid again and he did leave right after so what did he really accomplish? All he really did was worsen a situation with a screaming kid. If I was there as a customer, I would have thought he was an asshole. Not because of some bratty kid not getting his apple pie, but because I, other patrons, and the employees of burger king now have to deal with even more screaming. Nice going jackass.

[siead_lietrathua]

to be fair, while i agree it sucks for the employee and other patrons, i feel zeero sympathy for the mom. why?

...He says the mom paid more attention to her phone than to her kid, who was screaming...
... so he asked the mother nicely to quiet her kid down.
“Immediately she gets up in my face telling me I can’t tell her nothing about raising her child and to mind my own business,” recalls the customer, who says the mom rubbed it in by calling her kid “sweety” and assuring him that he’d get his pie.

i don't think he did it at all to spite the kid so much as to piss off the shit mom that's raising her kid to be an entitled brat. that mom chose to not only let her kid do things any sensible parent would punish their kid for (hitting mom? like hell you get a treat after that!) but to reward bad behavior by promising him the treat he was screaming for.
so he shut her down by removing the reward she was planning to give, and leaving her to deal with the bad behavior explosion she seems to encourage in her kids.
in that context, it's fuckin hilarious.

and TBH if i was a worker there, i would be laughing my ass off the minute the woman left the building.

[s_stabeler]

I don't know... first, we only have the word of the guy who bought the pies that the mother wasn't trying to calm the kid down- and I've seen it far more often that the parent(s) are desperately trying to get the kid to shut up.

not to mention, I can't help but remember that autistic ( I think it is) kids can have a meltdown that looks very much like a tantrum- could it have been that that was what was occurring? ( in which case, the treat isn't necessarily inappropiate) It sounds more consistent with the mother reassuring the kid, anyway.

also, i think it was both to spite the kid and piss off the mother.

[Hyena Dandy]

I don't know... first, we only have the word of the guy who bought the pies that the mother wasn't trying to calm the kid down- and I've seen it far more often that the parent(s) are desperately trying to get the kid to shut up.

In addition, "It's okay, you'll get the pies" IS a way to try to calm the kid down. Snapping at someone who's telling you how to parent can be a reasonable thing to do, if you're having a rough day.

Also, the "She was on her phone!" thing is... Well? Does he say what the conversation was? Because I know when I was having freakouts when I was younger, my mom would call home to let dad know what was going on. She also could have been in any other type of call that she really couldn't drop at the moment.


Whether he was trying to spite the kid, because he was upset about a child being childish, or he was trying to spite the mother, because he was the grand Arbiter of Good Parenthood, he was still acting out of spite, and almost certainly made someone who was having an already bad day have an EVEN WORSE day.

[siead_lietrathua]

or, things could just actually be how presented.
after all, the employees didn't deny him the sale. they sold him all the pies. and most likely also heard the screaming kid wanting one, and mom reassuring him.
they do have the right to limit quantities on these things. but chose to play along.
edit: i mean think how under the table it would have had to be to load all those pies into a bag and pass them over without the mom noticing (were she actually paying attention to her surroundings). those counters are out in the open, and the pies are prominently displayed.
i'd think that's kind of an indication as to the truth of his comments.

[Hyena Dandy]

I wasn't denying the events were as he described them. I was denying that we should be praising someone. The truth is, you CANNOT KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT SOMEONE IN A FEW SECONDS. This could be a regular occurrence. Or it could be an extreme situation. The kid could be troubled. He, or the mother, could have been on the tale end of a terrible day.

The fact that the employees went along with it is hardly evidence that this was a morally appropriate thing to do. None of what I suggested requires his story to be false. It just requires the people involved to actually exist when he isn't looking at them.

If you respond to someone asking your kid to quiet down with "Don't tell me how to be a parent" and then telling the kid "Yes, it's okay, you're going to get your pies" then you MIGHT be a terrible parent. Or you might be stressed out, snapping at the first thing that bothers you, then trying to do exactly that. Get the kid to calm down.

Now, yes, the guy had a headache (Though headaches don't 'turn into' migraines as he said, I'll let it pass) and he was having a bad day, as well. We all do dumb shit when we're stressed and in a bad mood and in pain or whatever. I become a real bitch when I'm hungry. The thing is, I regret it afterwards. I feel bad about snapping at my friends or freaking out or saying mean things. I don't go on to brag about it.

He was acting out of spite. He outright said he decided to ruin their day, a day which, it seems clear, was already pretty difficult. That is spiteful. Acting out of spite is not acceptable, period. He's being a bully. He is taking advantage of the fact that he has power over these people, and using that to make them even more miserable than he is. That's utterly indefensible.

The question isn't if the mother was a good mother, or if the kid was a spoiled brat. The question is if this person has the right to judge that and punish them for it. When the mother got upset with him for 'telling her how to raise her child' she was in the wrong. That wasn't what he was doing. But when he decides he is going to take away the opportunity to get the pies, then he's saying he DOES have the right to tell her how to parent her child, and also that she's doing it wrong. And that is the BEST case scenario, him deciding he should be in charge of this child's upraising. The worst case scenario is what he says it was. He was unhappy, and decided that he wanted to, in his own words, 'ruin their day,' and then mock them by proudly eating their pies in front of them.

Is she a good mother? I don't know. I don't know if the kid has special needs, and what their psychiatrist recommends. I don't know if this is a situation where she's feeling totally rundown and harried and decides she'll just bribe the kid because she's too exhausted to deal with it right now.

I don't know the extenuating circumstances around her and her child. What I DO know, however, is the extenuating circumstances around his behavior. That he had a headache, and that he was frustrated, and decided to take it out on someone. I can judge that behavior, and I can say it was wrong. But AT WORST, the mother was, due to her own incompetence, unintentionally causing distress to other people. But at best, though, he still INTENTIONALLY caused someone distress, celebrated it, and later boasted about it.

i mean think how under the table it would have had to be to load all those pies into a bag and pass them over without the mom noticing (were she actually paying attention to her surroundings).

Yeah, like if she had a screaming child which she thought was a higher priority than the possibility that this guy's order included $35 of "Fuck you."

[Kheldarson]

after all, the employees didn't deny him the sale. they sold him all the pies. and most likely also heard the screaming kid wanting one, and mom reassuring him.
they do have the right to limit quantities on these things. but chose to play along.

And? Unless the retail peon has been told specifically to limit quantities, how many actually take the initiative? I mean, let's say this guy had a legitimate, non-spiteful reason for the pies? He asked, found out what they had, made a decision to buy so he could have something for X event. If the cashier said that there's a limit, then he complains to a manager. You can't win. So you let the sale through because that's what matters to management.

[s_stabeler]

not to mention, I hate to say it, but why would the employee care? their only job is to sell food- not to make a judgement about who deserves the ability to buy food.

also, nobody is disputing that the kid was having a tantrum(or something that looks like a tantrum)- what we're saying is that they guy couldn't know all the details about the situation- so should not have taken it on himself to deny the kid a pie. Was the mother a terrible parent? possibly, even probably. But I know that my little sister has thrown public tantrums before, despite my parents being excellent parents. Despite such, sometimes they DO end up giving in to shut her up. ( she normally gets punished in private in that event. Which is a possibility in the situation in the OP.)

oh, and another thing- with so any people here who alos read CS, I'm surprised no-one has mentioned that it's only the guys' word that he asked her to get the kid to be quiet nicely- I would be unsurprised if he told her to shut her kid up, which is quite rude.

[crashhelmet]

I don't particularly agree with what the guy did.The problem I have is that ultimately, he did it simply because he had been having a bad day. Yes, the kid should not have thrown a tantrum. Yes, the mother should ahve disciplined the kid. Yes, the mother was rude by telling the guy off for asking her to quiet the kid down. But to deliberately prevent another patron from eating, ultimately because you were having a bad day? not a good idea. Especially when the kid was simply loud. Had it been Burger King chucking the kid out, i would applaud. but a fellow patron? no.

Don't make this out to be bigger than it is. He bought all of the apple pies, not all of the burgers, chicken, fish, fries, and onion rings.