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  • #16
    Originally posted by AmbrosiaWriter View Post
    I think that if they are being confined to mental institutions AFTER they have served their prison sentence then they SHOULD challenge the confinement. That's just sending them to a different form a prison, which is basically punishing them twice.

    Send them to the mental institution first off, instead of the prison sentence. Because to do it after they've served their time just seems like the system is trying to get double the bang for their buck from the conviction.
    The problem with sending them to a mental institution first is it doesn't balance the needs of the pedophile with the need for justice.

    The fact is, having sex with a child is a crime . . . and it should remain one. Because children cannot form consent, are vulnerable, any sexual activity with a child is rape by definition.

    But because it is also a mental illness, the community is not safe after the sex offender is released. What needs to happen is the mental health treatment needs to be part of the sentence, and part of the criminal statute. If we can put people on life long registration lists, we can require life long mental health counseling and treatment.

    Problem is, we'd have to budget money for that, as it is very expensive.
    Good news! Your insurance company says they'll cover you. Unfortunately, they also say it will be with dirt.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Panacea View Post
      Problem is, we'd have to budget money for that, as it is very expensive.
      Well, it already costs taxpayers over 30 grand a year to keep someone in prison on average in the US. $167,731(!!!) a year in New York City ( 93% of those prisoners are non-white of course ). Its not like the money isn't there, its just being fed into the prison industrial complex the US has got going on because it makes certain people lots and lots of money.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Gravekeeper View Post
        Well, it already costs taxpayers over 30 grand a year to keep someone in prison on average in the US. $167,731(!!!) a year in New York City ( 93% of those prisoners are non-white of course ). Its not like the money isn't there, its just being fed into the prison industrial complex the US has got going on because it makes certain people lots and lots of money.
        No argument from me here. I'm a big advocate of diversion for non-violent offenders, especially the petty drug possession charges. We have the money, just the wrong priorities.
        Good news! Your insurance company says they'll cover you. Unfortunately, they also say it will be with dirt.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Gilhelmi View Post
          For a school company not to take this basic precaution is just plain absurd. Madness, I swear.
          See, in this case, they had taken the police check as a sign that he was clean. THey hadn't done the reference check.

          I actually found myself in a similar conundrum a while back when i was getting hired-I'd been offered the job by my awesome RM (), but the day after I got offered said job, I got a call from the HR lady stating that one of the phone numbers in my resume was off and could I provide her with another number?

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          • #20
            Oh that makes sense. A reference check.

            Wait No its not. That is the opposite of 'sense'

            My current employer called references to decided if they should hire me (they wanted to know if I would show up to work). That is even MORE basic then a background check.

            I was annoyed before, now I am a bit more enraged.
            Noble Grand: Do you swear, on your sacred honor, to uphold the principles of Friendship, Love and Truth?
            Me: I do.
            (snippet of the Initiation ceremony of the Fraternal Order of Odd Fellows)

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            • #21
              Re the "pedophilia as a disease" thing, I'm reminded of an episode of ER (sometime around Season 9 off the top of my head) where they had a guy there who outright admitted he was a pedophile and needed to be treated. They didn't consider him a risk to others (because he hadn't acted on it), but he knew he was and wanted help not harm. Throughout the episode, he kept doing things to try and convince the psych consult that he needed to be treated (to the point of carving something in his forehead) which the psych kept dismissing. What got him in after all? He basically lied to say that he was going to molest his neighbour's son.

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