Rioters Ruin Another Protest

[mjr]

The governor was ready to send in the national guard all day long but the mayor waited until it was too late to admit she needed extra help.

It would seem to me that calling in the National Guard (or at least having them at the ready) would be the FIRST thing to do, wouldn't it??

[mjr]

It's at the point now where the Baltimore Orioles had a game moved to the afternoon, and are playing in an empty stadium because of the riots. And then, instead of hosting the Tampa Bay Rays, they have to fly to Florida and play there (though, the O's will still be considered the home team).

[Kheldarson]

Some info on how the riots started: http://m.motherjones.com/politics/20...ondawmin-purge

[Gravekeeper]

So they're just keeping all the arrested protesters in jail without charges now despite Maryland law stating charges must be brought within 24 hours. The few they have charged the judge has set bail at $100,000+ and stipulated cash only.

[s_stabeler]

...that could get the judge into trouble, actually ( two reasons: 1. bail is meant to be an amount that will discourage people from fleeing, not a tool to punish in and of itself, and expecting ordinary people to pay 100k in cash is a punishment 2. bail isn't supposed to be ridiculously high.You can refuse bail entirely, but not make it ridiculous)

[Rageaholic]

It looks like everyone is digging themselves deeper. The protesters for turning a legit protest violent and the police for violating state law.

The idiot ball is in full effect.

[the_std]

The protesters for turning a legit protest violent

The rioters are not the same group as the people who were initially leading the protest. Also, it's not "turning" a protest violent. The rioting was, again, not something planned or deliberate. And once it starts, it's so hard to stop - you can't just turn it off.

[Greenday]

So, I saw today it was announced that Gray attempted to self-harm while in the van. Both the police and another prisoner are claiming this.

It certainly wouldn't be the first time a prisoner self-harmed to try to get out of serving jail time. But it also wouldn't surprise me if the cops made it up and the other prisoner agreed to say it just to cut a deal with them.

[Gravekeeper]

So, I saw today it was announced that Gray attempted to self-harm while in the van. Both the police and another prisoner are claiming this.

Another prisoner who could not see Gray ( his statement is based on what he alleged heard ) and who gave said statement in a sealed warrant ( ie we can't see what the cops offered him to say it ). This prisoner claims he "heard" Gray banging on the walls and "thought he was trying to hurt himself".

This prisoner was the 4th person the van picked up, was only in the van for 5 minutes and according to the timeline, Gray was already injured and unresponsive by the time this prisoner was put in the van.

The second source is an unidentified relative of a police officer who is trying to shift the blame onto the arresting officers.

Both sources are bullshit obviously. There's a bunch of this shit going around. The "self harm" narrative popped up out of nowhere with obvious intentions alongside the "report" that Gray had a pre-existing spine and neck condition ( which, even if it were true, would have no bearing at all on severing his farking spine ).

According to the official report the fatal blow was sustained inside the van when Gray's head hit the side of the interior. They literally matched the imprint in his skull to the bolts on the interior of the van wall. The report was completed and handed over to the prosecutor without the assistance of the driver. The driver has not given a statement ( as that would be self incriminating I would assume. ). So look for the driver to lawyer up.

Gray had no other injuries aside from the severed spine. He got taken out in one sudden high impact blow. I would assume from a speed up / sudden break by the van ( and of which there is one stop recorded on the van gps that was not reported by the officers in their reports ).

Even if it WAS true that he was trying to injure himself in the van, its a moot point because the officers failed to secure him per dept policy. So it would still be the officer's responsibility.

[Rageaholic]

^

Yeah, I gotta call bullshit on the claims that Grey self injured. Obvious cover up is obvious.

[the_std]

In a shocking turn of events, six police officers involved with the inciting incident are being charged with a variety of offences, and the van driver is getting a second-degree murder charge.

[BlaqueKatt]

But by FAR the best part of the night (And I use that term loosely as no part of a riot is good):
Mom finds out her son has joined the riots so she goes out, finds him, and starts smacking the hell out of him and forces him to go home. And i's caught on live TV. Mother of the year.

I always say no one can whoop your ass like an angry black mother. It's their own epic brand.

You know the old joke of a gangbanger being flippant to police but suddenly begging for forgiveness when he found out his mom was called in? There's a reason that joke is still around.

My friend told me about that at lunch yesterday. She wasn't really "beating" him, but she was definitely berating him.

yeah about that......I'll just leave this here
The hideous white hypocrisy behind the Baltimore “Hero Mom” hype: How clueless media applause excuses police brutality

But anyone white who’s applauding Graham’s moment of desperation, along with the white media figures who are hyping her “heroism,” is essentially justifying police brutality, and saying the only way to control black kids is to beat the shit out of them.

[Aragarthiel]

yeah about that......I'll just leave this here
The hideous white hypocrisy behind the Baltimore “Hero Mom” hype: How clueless media applause excuses police brutality

I have no idea how that conclusion was made. Sometimes, kids of ANY race need to learn lessons this way. My mom always threatened it if she ever caught me doing drugs or smoking, and I was smart enough to know better. And we are both white. It says something about the values of the parents that approve of her actions. Not enough people discipline their kids the way they need to be, and she disciplined her child as she deemed necessary. That's what people were applauding, not the fact that she (OMG!) slapped her black child. She was a mom being a mom, like so many moms fail to do. Her actions had nothing to do with race.

[Gravekeeper]

I'm white. I legitimately fear what my mom would do to me had I participated in a riot on national television. And I say that in the present tense despite being in my 30s. Never mind when I was a teenager. >.>

Also, wow on the cops not only getting charged but getting charged swiftly before the media and idiot sphere can spend a month inventing a narrative to sway public opinion.

Mosby said an investigation found officers placed Gray in wrist and ankle restraints and left him stomach-down on the floor of a police van as they drove around West Baltimore. Despite his repeated requests for medical attention, they did not provide it and continued to drive without securing him in the van, she said.

Officers on at least five occasions placed Gray in the van or checked on him and failed to secure him, she said. By the time they reached the Western District police station, he was not breathing and was in cardiac arrest, she said.

Fuckers. -.-

[s_stabeler]

I think people were more applauding that, faced with her kid joining riots, she forced him to knock it off, actually.