Where's the "outrage" over this event??

[mjr]

Hey, just asking...

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/...out/ar-BBjTT5e

Three biker gangs. 8 dead, 19 injured, 192 arrested.

[Gravekeeper]

Seeing as this literally happened last night I don't know what you are expecting or trying to imply?

[Kheldarson]

Why would there be outrage? Three gangs attacked each other, cops came in to help control, no civilians were hurt. What's the problem?

[mjr]

Seeing as this literally happened last night I don't know what you are expecting or trying to imply?

The implication is that when some events happen, even in the evening/at night, it's all over the news and social media is filled with outrage the NEXT DAY.

[mjr]

Why would there be outrage? Three gangs attacked each other, cops came in to help control, no civilians were hurt. What's the problem?

"8 dead, 19 injured"

Doesn't that mean "civilians"?

[Kaylyn]

"8 dead, 19 injured"

Doesn't that mean "civilians"?

I think by "civilians" they meant "people outside the gangs involved."

[Aragarthiel]

I see this more as a reason to celebrate than a reason to be outraged. Think about it, if 170 (not 192, the story states that the first number was dropped down by police) gang members in your area were taken down in one night, wouldn't you feel much safer going out at night?

[Kheldarson]

"8 dead, 19 injured"

Doesn't that mean "civilians"?

From your article:

"I was amazed that we didn't have innocent civilians killed or injured," Swanton said.

So one would presume all injuries were sustained by bikers.

[Tama]

Let me quote the Joker here.

"If I tell the police that a gangbanger will get shot [...] nobody panics. Because it's all part of the plan."

And that's it. People EXPECT things like this to happen.

[Gravekeeper]

The implication is that when some events happen, even in the evening/at night, it's all over the news and social media is filled with outrage the NEXT DAY.

Yes, some events and yes, this IS all over the media right now. So no, I still don't know what you're on about. A bunch of fucking idiots killing each other doesn't seem like something that merits social media outrage.

[s_stabeler]

yeah, I hate to say it, but my sympathy is strictly limited to those family members of the gangsters involved who had no idea of the fact their relative was a gangster. the actual gangsters? knew what they were getting into.

[mjr]

I see this more as a reason to celebrate than a reason to be outraged. Think about it, if 170 (not 192, the story states that the first number was dropped down by police) gang members in your area were taken down in one night, wouldn't you feel much safer going out at night?

Correct on the number being reduced to 170.

To answer your second question: Yes.

[mjr]

From your article:

So one would presume all injuries were sustained by bikers.

Based on the first definition of "civilian"

1. a person who is not on active duty with a military, naval, police, or fire fighting organization.
2.
Informal. anyone regarded by members of a profession, interest group, society, etc., as not belonging; nonprofessional; outsider:
We need a producer to run the movie studio, not some civilian from the business world.
3.
a person versed in or studying Roman or civil law.

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The "bikers" were civilians. Not to be pedantic. I guess you could theoretically say they were referencing the 2nd definition, though.

[Kheldarson]

The "bikers" were civilians. Not to be pedantic. I guess you could theoretically say they were referencing the 2nd definition, though.

Larger point is that no uninvolved parties were injured. This isn't a case of large scale or systematic violence against innocent parties. It isn't even a brawl which spilled over and destroyed a neighborhood. A brawl, certainly, but it sounds like it was contained to the gangs involved.

[Andara Bledin]

Based on the first definition of "civilian"

Pedantry aside, I would assume that the term was supposed to be synonymous with 'bystander' because context.