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    OK, this story is quite painful... it seriously breaks my heart, I'm going to struggle not to cry while writing it.
    I recently started talking with a guy online. He seems like a nice guy. At first I thought he was a bit slutty since his main focus seemed to be, "hey, I'm willing to do anything you want to try, let me come over tonight and you can have your way with me". Of course every time he did that I politely responded that it wasn't really my scene to do random hook ups... I'd like to be a friend... maybe someday more... but I wasn't going to do a random hook up.
    Finally one day I asked him why he was so interested... and he admitted it... he is homeless. When he came out of the closet his parents kicked him out and told him never to show his face at their house again. So far he hasn't been able to find a job. He every day went to the library to use the internet to look for job postings and to get social support from friends online. Now he's to the point where he is so desperate that he's whoring himself out, just to have somewhere warm to sleep and maybe get a meal out of it.
    The reason why his parents kicked him out... well... you see... the prophet says homosexuality is wrong and sinful, we can't have a sinner living in our home. God damnit, how can those parents look at themselves in the mirror... they abandoned their son for no other reason than who he is. Actually the part that both terrifies me and breaks my heart to no end is that they probably look themselves in the mirror with a sense of pride that they cast out the evil from their house. Yet another life ruined by the bigotry so common in the LDS church. What a fucking waste.

    And now I am crying.
    "I'm Gar and I'm proud" -slytovhand

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    Sorry Smiley, but yeah, that sucks...

    Unfortunately, it is something humans do... a lot. Why do so many turn to prostitution? Or drugs? Or suicide? (sure, there's lots of reasons, economics being a major one... but in the end, it still comes back to how humans treat each other...).

    So, what you gonna do now?
    ZOE: Preacher, don't the Bible got some pretty specific things to say about killing?

    SHEPHERD BOOK: Quite specific. It is, however, Somewhat fuzzier on the subject of kneecaps.

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    • #3
      what can I do... I don't have the monney to support myself much less anyone else... I can give moral support.
      "I'm Gar and I'm proud" -slytovhand

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      • #4
        I am totally ignorant on the subject so please forgive any misconception on my part my questions are earnestly meant.

        You live in or around Utah right? Are the no homeless shelters or "hand up" programmes? I ask because the city I live in had many faults, but help for the homeless is one of its strengths. While the main religion where you live does not help gay men, there are churches that do... haha I can not believe I am suggesting a church! My local drama group rehearses at a church that is proud that it accepts all people.

        We also have a food bank and hostels for the homeless.... there must be something out there that can help him. It breaks my heart to think the world is such a cold place.
        I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ - Gandhi

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        • #5
          kiwi... I know of one place that would probably take him as an out guy... I can't say for certain though... because even they require assistance from the LDS church. I can't think of any secular institutions off the top of my head... and I hate to turn him to the church, they deny it, but it's commonly known that they still use straight camps.
          "I'm Gar and I'm proud" -slytovhand

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          • #6
            Sigh thats so sad, fair enough the thought only occurred to me tonight because I was at a play and noticed a big plaque on the wall that said something like "We embrace all who seek to live faithfully, regardless of sexual orientation, age, gender, racial or ethnic background" I was hoping that there might be something like that.

            who am I kidding though really, I was told I could never attain the highest level of heaven because my mother had my ears pierced when I was 6 weeks old and God wouldn't allow someone who had mutiliated their body into Celestial Kingdom. How could I expect people like that (not all mormons but the idiot mormons) to have tolerance for a sexual orientation they are told is evil when a 6 weekold can offend God so...

            I hope this person finds help from somewhere soon. I will keep him in my thoughts.
            I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ - Gandhi

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            • #7
              Smiley, I hate to say this, but there's also a good chance that this guy is just, well, lying. For sympathy, for money, for attention, etc. Even if he weren't - you can't be responsible for his troubles. I do hope that, if the story is true, he gets help. But he may need to go out of state to get it.

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              • #8
                Admin, the thought that he is lying had crossed my mind... even if he is, I know that it is something that really does happen all to often in this state... and if he isn't... I understand that I'm not responsible for anyone's problems but my own and that I should provide no more support than what I can afford... which right now is moral support only.
                "I'm Gar and I'm proud" -slytovhand

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