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  • Mr. Rum's attitude about Child Rum's therapy

    I could have put this in the other thread about my child ('cos you know, I know how much you love to hear about Child Rum and all her accomplishments and difficulties ). However, this is really bugging me and I need to get this off my chest (and I need a place to really vent everything out in the open and using not nice phrases that I don't think I could get away with at CS.com).

    Back on August 4, I got Child Rum evaluated by an Occupational Therapist. Occupation Therapy definition right here

    I noticed she's regressed since being out of school, and though she does have homework that was given to her by her teacher, she's still having problems with writing certain letters, not sitting down when supposed to, needing help in everyday situations, etc., etc.

    Now the insurance we have has a stipulation that reads that they will pay for physical therapy, occuapational therapy, and/or speech therapy or a combination of the 3 for 75 office visits. Anything over 75, the family/person/whomever pays out-of-pocket.

    Right now, when I go to speech, it's $20/week. I talked to the Office Manager who said if I should go over the 75 visits, we'd have to pay $55/week out of pocket (an increase of $35).

    The Occupational Therapy, as long as we're in this, is $20/week. I don't know what the out of pocket expense is if/when we go over the pre-requisite visits, I'm going to have to talk to them about it.

    The 75 visits are per calendar year (January to December). We're good for this year as she'll have had I believe approximately 70-72 visits (that includes the OT I want to get her).

    However, starting January 1, 2010, she'll get the full 75 visits again, but around the September timeframe, we're going to be running out of allowed visits and so we'd have 3 options:

    1. Discontinue therapy until the beginning of January, 2011.

    2. Pay both the out-of-pocket expenses to the speech and occupational therapies.

    3. Ask both practies to write letters to our insurance saying that additional coverage is necessary and requesting they allow more visits under the $20/co-pay only fund.

    As soon as I told Mr. Rum about how the OT people were recommending OT for Child Rum 1 x week for 50 minutes, he was "that's what? an extra $20 a week? $40 dollars? That's too much!"

    We argued. I called my mom to get her advice (she ended up offering to pay for anything out of pocket if we needed it). He called his mother for her advice. She said to only go with the 75 visits and then stop the therapy until the next calendar year.

    I was talking to a friend in IMs last night. I told him that I'd do anything to pay for the out of pocket expenses.

    Mr. Rum doesn't want to pay anything out of pocket. And yet, in a given weekend, we've been known to pay $70-$100 eating out (Friday night to Sunday night). And yet he can't scrounge up an extra $40/week to pay for therapy needed for our child?

    I told him that we can stop eating out so much. I've also called the cable company and told them I only want the digital package. (I was able to save an extra $12 by getting the HBO channel too, so I took it).

    I'm cutting back on my magazine subscriptions. I'm only going to be getting one in the mail anymore. And I have promised myself not to pick anymore up at the grocery store anymore.

    Am I justified in being angry/resentful/pissed off to the extreme about his attitude (and to a certain extent his mother's)? I really need help and I don't know where else to get it.
    Last edited by IDrinkaRum; 08-28-2009, 07:47 PM.
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  • #2
    If there's one thing my mom's taught me in the 21 years she's raised me, it's that the kids come first. So what that you guys cut down here and there so your child can continue therapy?

    Just put it to him this way, what's more important, helping your daughter's progress? Or having to suffer not going to out to dinner one less day a week. Seems like a better investment to help your daughter. One more home cooked meal a week won't kill your husband.
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    • #3
      I would be pissed too, especially at his mother. That is a horrible attitude to have about your child/grandchild. I've read your other posts about your in-laws and they just don't get it! Your child needs this, what good is it going to do if she starts something and then stops part-way through and then starts again? That won't do any good. I'm sorry your husband and his family have this attitude. It has made ME angry reading about them, and I don't even know Child Rum. I'm glad your mom is so supportive, at least you have her. And us!

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      • #4
        Your husband and his mother are being tools. Discontinuing therapy for months until insurance kicks back in is the *worst* thing you could do, especially since you said she's backslid over the summer. If it was impossible to afford it out-of-pocket, my suggestion would be to schedule the bulk of the appointments during summer, when she's out of class, and then see if you can skip a week or two during the school year. But that's only if you were riding the ragged edge of your budget. Sounds like you could cover it if your husband actually decided to be a concerned parent.
        Any comment I make should not be taken as an absolute, unless I say it should be. Even this one.

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        • #5
          I hope you don't take this the wrong way, Rum, but your hubby needs a good swift kick in the pants. Child Rum is his kid too, and he needs to man up and help. The therapy helps her, and as someone else said, one more homecooked meal a week won't hurt anyone.
          Help a friend!

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          • #6
            How many visits does she need a year? 75 visits a year comes out to 6 (almost 7) a month. I understand autism takes a lot of work, but, more than 75 visits a year seems like a lot, especially since she's in school as well.

            But, like in my family, the child comes first.

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            • #7
              Mr. Rum is now backtracking. He says that he & his mother want to talk to our Pediatrician (who waffled for almost a year before telling us to go to various experts to get her diagnosed) to see if this therapy would be good for her. Because, as a mother, I don't know what I'm seeing/understanding obviously.

              Can't talk more - I'm in the middle of Mr. Rum's D&D game. Yeah ... It's boring, so sue me.

              ETA: I want her in separate therapy other than what she gets in school as the OT she's getting at school will be going from 120 minutes/month to 30 minutes/month. She really, really needs extra help. I really believe that.
              Last edited by IDrinkaRum; 08-29-2009, 02:11 AM.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by daleduke17 View Post
                75 visits a year comes out to 6 (almost 7) a month.
                Since it seems "per visit" rather than "time," 6 a month isn't even 2/week, and potentially rather short visits. I've had extra-curricular activities that met more often than that. If she needs, say, two specialists (IDR mentioned Speech and OT), that's one of them one time a week, and the other twice a month.
                Any comment I make should not be taken as an absolute, unless I say it should be. Even this one.

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                • #9
                  She's got Speeh & OT. Both would be one time per week. So she'd go to 2 therapies in the same week (does that make sense?)

                  Right now, she's going to Speeh on Wednesdays at 5:30 PM. I'm hoping that she can get her OT at 4:30 on Wednesdays, but not sure if I can swing it. (Might not be lucky in the scheduling department). But let's say she's going to Speech on Wednesdays and OT on Saturdays. Then it's 2 x 4 wks/month = 8 visits/month

                  8 visits x 8 months = 64 visits so far, plus 11 more visits (that is a combo of OT and Speech).

                  Plus, what I keep forgetting, we have the potential of writing off her therapies on our taxes.

                  I suppose me seeing Child Rum every day, seeing what she can and cannot do, means nothing when compared to the "wisdom" of a doctor who sees my daughter once a year (for check-ups/physicals) and when she's sick.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Part-Time Parrothead View Post
                    I hope you don't take this the wrong way, Rum, but your hubby needs a good swift kick in the pants.
                    Are we talking about the front...or rear of his pants?

                    Child Rum is his kid too, and he needs to man up and help. The therapy helps her, and as someone else said, one more homecooked meal a week won't hurt anyone.
                    As long as it helps her, what's the problem? Well, other than hubby is being a cheap bastard He needs to realize that kids are expensive, and to "grow a set and deal."

                    I say that, because my parents...even with their faults, tried not to scrimp on things. My parents were pretty much broke most of my childhood. Yet there was always food on the table, a roof over our heads and clothes on our backs. Anyway, I went to therapists to try and figure out what was 'wrong' with me. All of that, plus the school tutoring, didn't come cheap. Yet, they did it.

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                    • #11
                      This brings up a rather contentious topic. How much and what type of treatment should non-custodial parents be legally obligated to pay?
                      Because we know the OP as a shrewd observer of her child, we may accept without argument that she knows best. But what should the court demand and how should they reach that verdict?
                      What is the minimum required?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by protege View Post
                        Are we talking about the front...or rear of his pants?


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                        Yep.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Flyndaran View Post
                          This brings up a rather contentious topic. How much and what type of treatment should non-custodial parents be legally obligated to pay?
                          Contentious, but in absolutely no way relevant or topical to this thread. Mr. Rum lives in the same house as IDR and Child Rum. Sounds like a decent topic for a new thread, if you want to make it.
                          Any comment I make should not be taken as an absolute, unless I say it should be. Even this one.

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                          • #14
                            Ooops! Sorry Flyn - I should have said that Mr. Rum and I are married.

                            I don't understand my MIL's reasoning about the therapy either. However, I think it's because she doesn't believe that Child Rum is as "bad off" as I say she is. Trust me. She goes to the bathroom, I have to follow or she's under the sink grabbing things. I have to watch her like a hawk when she's in my bathroom as she tries to eat toothpaste. MIL doesn't keep everything under lock and key - like cleaning supplies - Child Rum has been know to either open things and then throw them around or try them out for a taste. (And yet according to her, I'm "babying" Child Rum ).

                            Right now the OT is a little moot as I've called and left a message last week and I haven't heard anything back from them so far. Hopefully I'll hear from them this upcoming week.
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                            • #15
                              Right now this is a moot point

                              Got a call from the scheduling woman who does the appointments for the Occupational Therapist.

                              Child Rum has been put on a waiting list for the time being. Hopefully something will come up but right now, the only times she has available is from 9 AM until 2 PM - which is during Child Rum's school day.

                              Hopefully a Saturday appointment will be opening soon.

                              It seems like there's a new Physical Therapy office opening (especially in my neck of the woods), but OT? Nah ... who needs that?
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