Excuses, excuses, excuses!!

[RecoveringKinkoid]

People make excuses because they think they owe someone an explanation. Around here, and regarding their overweight state, they make excuses because they think they owe me an explanation, for some reason. Why they think this is anyone's guess, but it's annoying as anything. I could care less they had twinkies and mountain new for breakfast, my jeans button fine.

I think people simply do not want to think that they are, in the vast majority of cases, responsible for their lot. They want to cultivate the idea that they are victims of circumstance and therefore not culpable.

[Flyndaran]

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I think people simply do not want to think that they are, in the vast majority of cases, responsible for their lot. They want to cultivate the idea that they are victims of circumstance and therefore not culpable.

But we are all victims of circumstance. We just all have to do our best to overcome it.
I don't judge people that fail to do what is best. We all fail almost every day at something.
I know people that simply cannot lose weight. It doesn't matter if the fault is genetic, emotional, or simple ignorance. They don't deserve ridicule.
I know that I can lose enough weight to be skinny. I choose not to, because then I become obsessed with food and what I cannot eat. I choose a happier lifestyle.
What makes my life worth living is no one else's business.
That fact that today's society judges fat people, means that many feel the need to justify themselves to others. It's sad, not something new to judge people on.

[RecoveringKinkoid]

I don't judge them either. I just don't want to hear about it. And yet, I continue to be the Confessor for these people. It's not like I treat people badly based on their weight. I don't. I have heavy friends. I have some REALLY heavy friends. Their body type is not relevant to how I feel about them, and woe be unto any who disrespect them in my presence.

I know a person or two that probably can't lose weight for real, too. Hence the disclaimer of "in the vast majority of cases" instead of the word "all."

And then there are the vast majority of cases where they don't want to get control of their health. That's fine. Some people find that worrying about it erodes their quality of life, and they just would rather be happy and stress free in their own skins, and there is nothing wrong with that.

But it irritates me when they sit there and say "oh, I CAN'T get control of this" while drinking their third Big Gulp. I don't want to hear about it when that is the case. And it too often is.

I have a friends who say "you know, I'm big and it takes so much effort for me to slim down I have just decided to say "fuck it". Hey. I totally respect that.

[Flyndaran]

So your problem has almost nothing to do with excuses about weight, just people whining to you in general?

[DesignFox]

So your problem has almost nothing to do with excuses about weight, just people whining to you in general?

The complaint, as has been stated in at least one other thread I can think of, is people who whine about their lot in life and do NOTHING to fix it.

If you are happy with yourself, be happy and stop whining. If you are unhappy with yourself, FIX IT. If you are not a least TRYING to fix it, stop whining.

Everyone has their moments and needs a shoulder to cry on- but if my shoulder doesn't have time to dry out before you're crying on it about the same thing again, I'm gonna start to get annoyed, too.

[lupo pazzesco]

Everyone has their moments and needs a shoulder to cry on- but if my shoulder doesn't have time to dry out before you're crying on it about the same thing again, I'm gonna start to get annoyed, too.

QFT!

Damn skippy, etc, etc, etc. I don't mind listening to friends if they need to vent, really I don't. But stop bitching about the same shit over and over and over and over and over (well, you get the idea...), if you're going to try and change anything, ever. Tried and failed? Ok, fine, sure, I'm sorry, vent away, but to have at least tried is better than not.

[violetyoshi]

The complaint, as has been stated in at least one other thread I can think of, is people who whine about their lot in life and do NOTHING to fix it.

If you are happy with yourself, be happy and stop whining. If you are unhappy with yourself, FIX IT. If you are not a least TRYING to fix it, stop whining.

Everyone has their moments and needs a shoulder to cry on- but if my shoulder doesn't have time to dry out before you're crying on it about the same thing again, I'm gonna start to get annoyed, too.

And if you can't fix it, well you should try to anyway, lest you be a burden to superior people who can fix all their problems right?

[DesignFox]

And if you can't fix it, well you should try to anyway, lest you be a burden to superior people who can fix all their problems right?

No. As I said about a billion times and I'm getting tired of repeating myself. If you TRIED I will be sympathetic. At least you TRIED. But nothing will get resolved if you don't TRY. And if there is nothing you can do about it, get over it. Cry out your frustration when you need to, but don't pester people constantly. It annoys them and rightfully so. We all have problems. Some people are more annoying about theirs than others.

[lupo pazzesco]

And if you can't fix it, well you should try to anyway, lest you be a burden to superior people who can fix all their problems right?

Where, EXACTLY, are you getting this from? The topic in my OP was quite clearly expressed as being frustrated with people who complain about their lot regarding weight but who make absolutely NO effort to change it. If they actually TRY (And I'm sorry, but 5 minutes on a Wiifit, followed by sucking down a large milkshake emphatically does NOT count), then perhaps I, and DesignFox whom I can't say I speak for, wouldn't be so frustrated with the repeated whining and moaning about said person's lot in life.

Nowhere did I mention anyone superior, whether they can fix all their problems or not. Yippee, I'm losing weight! That's ONE problem, never said I was fixing all of mine. I greatly dislike the implication. I understand this is a board for debate and contention, but I feel that was a rather pointed, and unnecessary remark against what DesignFox said, and against the entire purpose for creating my thread. In fact, I quite distinctly noted that I understand there ARE some people for whom losing weight is medically challenging. I thought I was clear. Could you, perhaps, return the favor and clearly point out the points where I, or anyone else, was indicating otherwise?

[Nyoibo]

And if you can't fix it, well you should try to anyway, lest you be a burden to superior people who can fix all their problems right?

And the only way you could know for certain that you can not fix it is if you've already tried, try another arguement.

[Flyndaran]

And the only way you could know for certain that you can not fix it is if you've already tried, try another arguement.

Who says that these people haven't tried? Just because they continue to do something that you wouldn't does not mean you know their minds.
For years people thought I simply wasn't trying, or not trying hard enough to get over my social phobia and anxiety. I tried my f*cking heart out and to all appearances nothing happened. No one else know how hard I try sometimes to do simple things like take out the trash on a bad day. All you would see is inaction.

[BroomJockey]

Who says that these people haven't tried?

Because Lupo was specifically talking about people she knew.

You know, I'm pretty sure we've got another thread around here not long ago for talking about people who are simply unable to lose weight and such, so if anyone wants to talk about that, go find that thread. This one's for Lupo venting about her friends who won't try.

[DesignFox]

Thank you Lupo. You understood my point exactly.

[Pedersen]

Except for my diet Pepsi that is. I walk the 0.75-1.0 mile to the nearby Fred Meyer for them or I just don't drink any. With my 6-8 liter a day habit, that's also quite a bit of weight to trudge back with. My record is a bit over 60 pounds.

Public Health Notice: Flyn, you are consuming dangerous levels of soda if that's your actual consumption.

People are finding themselves experiencing cardiac issues and temporary paralysis when drinking that quantity of soda over an extended period. Here, Google links.

Basically, the soda contains high fructose corn syrup. This is harder to digest, resulting in more frequent soft stool, which results in loss of potassium (due to the added liquid leaving the body along with the stool). Potassium is a critical ingredient in keeping your muscles contracting. Without sufficient potassium, you are unable to move your arms and legs, and your heartbeat becomes irregular.

As such, you might want to re-evaluate the quantity of soda that you drink. I know I have.

And now back to the regularly scheduled thread.

[violetyoshi]

Public Health Notice: Flyn, you are consuming dangerous levels of soda if that's your actual consumption.

I did not know that.