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  • Reality vs. Ideal

    I've noticed a lot lately, on the Intermanets and in life that people seem to have forgotten the reality of a situation trumps how a situation should be, or how a person should act.

    Stuff ranging from "If your child acts up while you're out, immediately remove them from the situation as punishment. You need to do this every time or you're sending an inconsistent message" to "You should tell your boss you're not doing that, you're not supposed to, or you'll quit" to "man up and stand for your principles."

    Yeah, all that sounds like good advice, yet often the reality of the situation shows that the advice-giver has nothing of actual value to offer since they can't reconcile how things should work with how they do work.

    In the child example, if a person has a string of errands, and most are time-sensitive, you cannot reasonably expect them to abandon, say, a cart of groceries amassed over the past half-hour, because the kiddling cannot have a box of Lucky Charms and has a meltdown over it. That wastes the half-hour spent already, plus more time in the future to go and do it again. Some people just do not have that time to waste. Reality intrudes on idealism, but these people can't grasp that and call people bad parents for letting their kid scream in the cart.

    In the "you should quit" example, I think that one's obvious, so I'll just sum it up "a person's gotta eat, and jobs aren't easy to find."

    The "stand for your principles" one is a bit touchier. It'd be nice if no one ever had to compromise their beliefs for the sake of a job, or for a friendship, or anything, but again, reality means things aren't perfect. The saying "go along to get along" is one aspect, in that you can avoid needless confrontation by simply smiling, nodding, and ignoring the fuck out of a problem

    By way of example, you believe that fur clothing is cruel, and a co-worker who you need to interact with regularly in a significant aspect has just gotten a fur-trimmed sweater. You could either preach to them about how evil the fur industry is in their horrible treatment of animals, probably damaging your working relationship to the point where they may actively sabotage your efforts, or you could let it slide, make note not to invite them to any parties, and salvage the working relationship.

    Then there's "You scratch my back, I scratch yours." You trade favours. I let you use my car, you let me borrow your cell phone, or I'll work Christmas day, you work New Year's Day. Or, "I won't blackball your idea to switch to a new supplier, you don't put the kibosh on my plan to get a new vending machine," or "I'll vote in favour of your party location proposal if you vote in favour of my recycling mandate."

    To make it clear, though, I'm not jumping on anyone who offers the advice initially, but those who think their ideal response is still the best (and maybe only valid) one, even after it's been made clear the real world has precedence over their little rainbow version. That's when I say "nice, I like advice that applies in this universe, though."
    Any comment I make should not be taken as an absolute, unless I say it should be. Even this one.

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    I am inclined to agree with you.

    I have heard that bandwagon before on CS "You need to quit now!", and I have to avoid the urge to respond that it may not be the most practical or responsible thing to do in a failing economy......unless it's an absolute emergency and your life and mental health are severely at risk, it's not a good idea.

    I'm sure I'm guilty of saying it before, though.

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    • #3
      Right before I got the job I have now I was working as a Telemarketer for a few days cuz I was desperate for work after 2 months of nothing and right before the big economic downturn. I quit on principal and landed the current job shortly thereafter the economy took a nose dive.

      Honestly it was like I did the stupidest thing in the world and realized if my timing had been off even by a few days I could have royally screwed up.

      Before then I would have been all GRRR IDEALS !!! Now I realize how very lucky I am to have job when so many others are losing theirs .
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      • #4
        Originally posted by blas87 View Post
        I have heard that bandwagon before on CS "You need to quit now!", and I have to avoid the urge to respond that it may not be the most practical or responsible thing to do in a failing economy
        Every time I vent about my job, that's the common advice given to me.

        While I appreciate it, and don't disagree with the sentiment, there are so many other realities of my situation that prevent me from quitting right now.

        I think people want to help.

        Sometimes, they don't really know any other way but to do the "woulda, shoulda, coulda" routine.

        Mind you, there really are people who see the world in absolutes with no gray area. They are convinced there's a wrong way, and there's a right way, and the right way is theirs.
        Point to Ponder:

        Is it considered irony when someone on an internet forum makes a post that can be considered to look like it was written by a 3rd grade dropout, and they are poking fun of the fact that another person couldn't spell?

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