Twilight!

[LadyBarbossa]

Words can no longer describe how much I hate this pitiful excuse for a 'saga' and the way we are constantly being forced to deep throat the damn thing. I'm tired of seeing ads for it on 90% of websites I visit, even when they have nothing to do with books or film. I'm tired of seeing huge displays of Twishit all over various departments of stores. I'm tired of seeing Kristen Stewart's vapid expression plastered all over, same with shots of Pattinson that looks like he's just rolled out of a trash can after shooting up. Or Taylor's creepy pedo-wolf stare peeking around every corner.


And I'm mostly embarrassed that my nephew, 17, is going to see New Moon on Friday because he's just DYING to see it and he's a stupid enough fuck to go alone even after finding out his friend and friend's sister won't be able to go as well. At least if they went, it'd look like the sister dragged them to it. I'd like to clock him nice and hard with a clue-by-four for telling me "It takes a real man to admit he likes Twilight" when I told him he should check his manhood in at the theater door.

I'm pissed off at his friends' idiot mother who let her daughter read this shit because it has "Such a wonderful abstinence message and it's clean, wholesome reading" because if she hadn't, the stupid prude wouldn't have gotten her brother and, in turn, my nephew, turned on to this tripe.

Stephenie Meyer, go play in traffic.

[Greenday]

First off, you should be embarrassed of your nephew. I saw the first one just because the girl I liked asked me to and I thought it'd help my chances with her and I STILL caught shit for it.

Second, I like how people try to say that Twilight teaches good morals when the book itself reeks of sexism against women and such.

[BroomJockey]

Honestly, I blame Harry Potter. It was a well-written story of friendship and sacrifice in a fantastical world. And then it took off in popularity like a rocket, and publishers needed something that they thought was in the same vein of Harry Potter. Twilight seemed to qualify. After all, it was in a fantastical world, wasn't it? They just forgot the well-written, the meaningful sacrifice, and friendship. Instead they inserted blank characters for tweens to project themselves on to, meaningless subsuming of self to the detriment of all for a relationship, and superficial similarities supposedly creating deep bonds.

And to top it all off, it's a story of *massive* ephebophilia. After all, Edward's over 100 years old, and Bella wasn't even 18. That's just sick.

[Wingates_Hellsing]

The only thing really missing from Harry Potter was a good lesson in tactical consideration. He failed hard in that area every-single-step of the way.

But what pisses me off more than the stupid story, bad characters and flawed rational of Twilight is that so many people revere it more than the real awesomely cool people we have in real life.

Do people really have to rocket off into some fantastical(ly stupid) world before they can appreciate anything?

[Bloodsoul]

Before I had even heard of Twilight, I recall a member of Gamers.com old, defunct forum (not their present one) having the book's artwork as an avatar (giving me an, "oh, so THAT'S where it comes from!" moment months later).

...so, I will say this about Twilight:; the hands holding the apple? I did sort of like that. Granted, if connecting it to that book wasn't already lodged in my mind, now, I'd probably somehow connect it to Ryuk from Death Note.

[kiwi]

At least if they went, it'd look like the sister dragged them to it.

How is a girl liking (or seeing) twilight any better than a guy liking (or seeing) twilight?
Considering how abusive emo Edward is to Bella I think anyone seeing it at an impressionable age is a terrible thing.

That and vampires don't sparkle any more than they have jazz hands. Anne Rice must be spitting tacks. Queen of the damned, now that was a sexy vampire movie.

[Kimmik]

I dont understand why you should be so hard on your nephew. First off ok you don't like it which is ok but why are you so vehemently against him liking it. Everyone has their own taste. Hell I applaud the boy for standing up and liking what he likes perceptions be damned.

Personally I enjoyed reading the books for mindless fun. And her sparkling vampires are an interesting twist on predators having a weakness. I never did go for the they can't do sun light and don't reflect in mirrors. Didn't much care for the movie as I dont think that it was true enough to the books. She is more vapid in the movie then she seemed in the books.

[Boozy]

I'd like to clock him nice and hard with a clue-by-four for telling me "It takes a real man to admit he likes Twilight" when I told him he should check his manhood in at the theater door.

He's right. You should be proud of him for having the self-confidence at the age of 17 to admit what he likes and present himself to the world with no embarassment. I think he's an exceptional young man.

I think it's a shame that you would tell him that he's less of a man for liking the things that he does. Men are not defined by their hobbies, they are defined by their actions towards others.

If it's okay for 17 year-old girls to like Twilight, then it's okay for boys to like it. Until we can all agree on that, sexism will be alive and well in our society.

(For the record, I haven't read the Twilight books nor seen the movies, and I have no plans to do so.)

[Lace Neil Singer]

I dislike the books purely cuz they give out the impression that a) women have to be helpless damsels in distress in order to snag a man and b) abusive boyfs are alright. Yes, I have read them. Yes, this does give me more reasons to hate the book. XD I heard too that Stephanie only made Jacob into Pedowolf cuz she hated the fact that more fans of the book loved Jacob rather than her pwecious Edward.

I don't like the way that the books portray a sick, abusive and frankly disturbing guy as the perfect boyf, and glamourise spousal abuse. Also, the imprinting thing is SICK. I'm sorry, but a grown man being imprinted on a BABY is akin to pedophilia. Why not put Jacob with Leah? That would, you know, MAKE SENSE. Jacob was the only character with a few shreds of character, and Stephanie destroyed him for no good reason.

Also, Bella Swan is a Mary Sue name; Bella means "beautiful". New kids in town are very rarely feted in the way that Bella was; they are usually ignored. She's supposed to be a girl next door type, however every single other female character in the book is jealous of her, and boys fall at her feet. Her clumsiness does not affect her life in any great way, save for sometimes putting her in situations where she becomes a damsel in distress. She can be a total bitch, yet her nastiness does not affect her in any negative way. Finally, it's pretty obvious that Bella is a self insert of Stephanie Meyer, placed in the story solely so that the author can live her fantasies about getting off with a vampire boy. -.-

What Bella and Edward have is NOT love. It's at best infatuation, and at worst a seriously wrong relationship in which an abusive control freak uses emotional blackmail to manipulate his partner. A lot of abusive men say that they love their partners, despite either battering them senseless or controlling their every move. Edward is a stalker; the watching Bella sleep thing is seriously creepy. He threatens suicide to make her comply. He vandalises her car to stop her seeing her friends. There are a lot better ways to protect someone than controlling their every move. "I lock her up and control what she does in order to protect her" is exactly what an abusive man would say about his partner in order to excuse himself.

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[Nyoibo]

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[blas87]

I didn't find Edward to be overly abusive in the first movie, creepy and odd, yes......are you guys speaking of what's to come in the second one?

I am not about to try to beat the crowds this weekend, maybe not even next weekend to see the movie. I waited for the first one, I can probably wait for this one too.

[LadyBarbossa]

To clarify, I'd be just as disappointed and embarrassed if C was my niece instead of my nephew. I was merely saying I'd rather he go with a female companion because Twilight is primarily aimed at and enjoyed by girls and not boys. Girls dragging their brothers and male friends to chick flicks is nothing new. But for him to openly admit that he likes it is just ugh. A few minutes ago I asked him why he needs to see this movie so badly and he said "Just because. I like the first one, and I want to see the black vampire get torn apart".

I told him that if I found out he was climbing into girl's bedrooms at night to watch them sleep, I was going to kick him, and he retorted that there's nothing wrong with what Edward did because he was 'protecting' Bella. THAT kind of shit right there is why I dislike this series. We have a 17 year old boy who thinks it's perfectly acceptable to do this kind of thing.

And I absolutely agree with everything LNS said, and it particularly bothers me that Bella is such an incredible bitch through the entire series and yet the author and fanbase will both bleat about how selfless and kind she is. I've read the first book and part of the second and I'm finding it difficult to trudge through, as avid a reader as I normally am. I fail to see how a young woman putting herself in danger to hear her estranged boyfriend's voice in her head is healthy or fun in any way, shape, or form. I'm a big fan of fantasy, but when it's done in this manner and aimed at young, impressionable minds, I have a problem with it.

[LeChatNoir]

I didn't find Edward to be overly abusive in the first movie, creepy and odd, yes......are you guys speaking of what's to come in the second one?

I am not about to try to beat the crowds this weekend, maybe not even next weekend to see the movie. I waited for the first one, I can probably wait for this one too.

If you read the books, the abusiveness is a lot more prominent. I've only read the first two, but the second book made me want to punch something. Edward is a dick and Bella needs some serious therapy and intervention.

Oh, and as an aside...is it just me, or do Meyer's vampires not have fangs either? I can pass on the sparkles, but how the fuck can any respectable vampire suck blood without fangs? I am just going off the fact that fangs are not mentioned (that I have read) in the books, and you did not see any at all in the first movie. Does Edward go around "omnomnom"ing his victims?

[kiwi]

Does Edward go around "omnomnom"ing his victims?

no he just looks at them with a brooding emo stare its the greasy hair, no girl could resist!

[LadyBarbossa]

If you read the books, the abusiveness is a lot more prominent. I've only read the first two, but the second book made me want to punch something. Edward is a dick and Bella needs some serious therapy and intervention.

Agreed.

Oh, and as an aside...is it just me, or do Meyer's vampires not have fangs either? I can pass on the sparkles, but how the fuck can any respectable vampire suck blood without fangs? I am just going off the fact that fangs are not mentioned (that I have read) in the books, and you did not see any at all in the first movie. Does Edward go around "omnomnom"ing his victims?

They apparently have a regular set of teeth like humans, only they are 'razor sharp'. Don't ask me how kissing and making out with a human being is supposed to work in that case. Or for that matter, since all their bodily fluids are replaced by 'venom', why Bella doesn't get turned vamp by tongue kissing or sex.