Twilight!

[MystyGlyttyr]

I tried to read the books twice. First time I got through three paragraphs before I put it down. Second time I thought "Okay, well, I'm pitiful at starting stories too, maybe once I get through the intro it won't be so bad." I got to page 17 before I thought "If I don't stop, I'm going to HURT MYSELF." I do have a cousin who loves the series, but freely admits she likes it for the trashy factor. She has a thing for shameless stupid romance stuff and all that.

For reference, I went and dug out some ancient wrestling fic I wrote from when I was in high school, about 10 years ago before I really learned how to, you know, actually write. ...it was pretty much the same stuff. Seriously. Vampires and everything. I guess everyone who writes goes through that teen DRAWMA phase and vampires are a popular choice. Stephanie Myers just figured out how to make money off it. Can't fault her for that.

Can, however, fault her for thinking she's a legitimately good writer and getting all butthurt when anyone suggests otherwise. Successful, yes. Possibly best scam artist of our time, yes. Good, no. Seriously, if she would come out and say "Yeah, I pretty much just wrote this for the shit of it and lookit what happened," I'd be giggling at the joke right along with her. But she's so VERY INTO her own hype.

Eh, I'm more annoyed that I have to wait till after curfew hours to get into Hot Topic and buy my fishnets and nail polish, or else it's packed with little "goffiks."

[Ree]

Now, the press is making a big deal out of the fact that Miley Cyrus refuses to read the books or see the movie because she doesn't believe in vampires.
Because Miley Cyrus sets the standards for everyone to follow...


As to your nephew, your stand on this saddens me.

As the aunt of a young gay man who is comfortable in his own skin, and who follows his own drummer, the rest of the world be damned, I applaud your nephew.

As was mentioned, the attitude you expressed is what keeps sexism prevalanet in our society.

Even in some of the comments in this thread it's clear that women are encouraged to be strong and independent and step out of traditional "female" stereotypes.
Why, then, is it so upsetting that a young man chooses to attend a movie that is seen as a "chick" movie, and he is told to check his manhood at the door?

[RecoveringKinkoid]

Now, the press is making a big deal out of the fact that Miley Cyrus refuses to read the books or see the movie because she doesn't believe in vampires.

Has she ever heard of the term "fiction", I wonder?

[Ree]

Has she ever heard of the term "fiction", I wonder?

But she does have a right to her personal preferences without being criticized for answering a question honestly. It's not as if she started a smear campaign against Twilight.
She was just asked a question, which she answered, and it got blown out of proportion.

I am not a fan of vampire related entertainment, either.

In fact, just a few weeks ago I was wondering why the whole vampire culture has become so trendy.

It really doesn't do a thing for me.

[RecoveringKinkoid]

Oh, I hate it. I cringe when I hear the word "vampire."

But that's kind of a dumb thing to say. Of course, she doesn't believe in vampires. I don't either.

I should probably state now for the record that I like Miley Cyrus.

[Ree]

I should probably state now for the record that I like Miley Cyrus.

I like her too, for the record.

I just don't think, because someone is a celebrity, that the press should see them as the voice for everyone.

[kiwi]

She doesn't believe in vampires... thats fair.

I don't believe in gravity or logic or mathematics. They are made up thing we are told to believe in, they have almost everyone convinced but NOT ME!!!

[LadyBarbossa]

Ree, see my previous post. I would be just as embarrassed if he were a girl. Perhaps my original words weren't the best choices. It isn't so much the 'girly' aspect of the series, it's the fact that I thought he was more intelligent and classy than to get sucked into this craze.

I've known grown, intelligent people with college education and brilliant minds to get sucked into this thing, and I swear, they get dumber and dumber all the time. There are fans who will put "Edward can break my headboard and bruise my body anyday!" on t-shirts and wear them with a giggle and a grin.

People need to read or view Twilight before judging or defending it. It truly is appalling.

[Ree]

Ree, see my previous post. I would be just as embarrassed if he were a girl. Perhaps my original words weren't the best choices. It isn't so much the 'girly' aspect of the series, it's the fact that I thought he was more intelligent and classy than to get sucked into this craze.

Fair enough, but you did say, in the OP

At least if they went, it'd look like the sister dragged them to it. I'd like to clock him nice and hard with a clue-by-four for telling me "It takes a real man to admit he likes Twilight" when I told him he should check his manhood in at the theater door.

To me, that was saying more than the fact that you considered Twilight to be crap.

[LadyBarbossa]

I'll admit that was probably out of line of me, though I do find it irritating that he will make fun of guys who are dancers, figure skaters, homosexuals, men who wear makeup, etc and refuses to watch movies with singing or romance. And yet he'll pay money to watch two people gush over one another and try to kill themselves when they break up, so long as there's 'action' to be seen.

[blas87]

K, so how many of you have I lost as friends because I have Edward as my computer background and am on Team Edward?

[Greenday]

To me, being on Team Anyone is kinda too far. I mean, there was none of that Team Harry or Team Ron for Harry Potter. Then again, Harry Potter wasn't PG erotica...

[Kalli]

To me, being on Team Anyone is kinda too far. I mean, there was none of that Team Harry or Team Ron for Harry Potter.

Harry and Ron were friends without any conflicting interests. Edward and Jacob are polar opposite mortal enemies who are both in love with the same person. It's perfectly acceptable to take sides in such a story.

[Kalli]

To the OP: would you be opposed to your nephew watching movies where people get killed or do drugs without consequences?

I think you're sticking your nose into your nephews' interests unasked, and trying to justify doing that by using standards you don't apply to other movies.

I also think it's interesting that the ant-twilight mob's main gripe is that the fans' opinion of the series is being "shoved in their face", yet they behave remarkably forcefully when it comes to sharing THEIR opinion on the series. Hate it if you want, the fans don't care if you hate it. Just hate it quietly.

[Greenday]

To the OP: would you be opposed to your nephew watching movies where people get killed or do drugs without consequences?

I think you're sticking your nose into your nephews' interests unasked, and trying to justify doing that by using standards you don't apply to other movies.

As long as the kid doesn't think they apply to reality, I don't care what people watch. But people are taking Twilight and making it apply to reality, which is absurd.

I also think it's interesting that the ant-twilight mob's main gripe is that the fans' opinion of the series is being "shoved in their face", yet they behave remarkably forcefully when it comes to sharing THEIR opinion on the series. Hate it if you want, the fans don't care if you hate it. Just hate it quietly.

It is being shoved down our throats, thus we have a right to voice our gripes. I'd like to find good bumper stickers for my friends, but it's tough when 8/9 per page are about Twilight. Half the girls I know read that crap and now they are fixated on this unrealistic idea of a boyfriend. Why would I not gripe about this crap?